Question Can you only have one instance of certain summons?

JonBrave · #1 September 16th, 2012, 07:37 AM

As per, are (some) summons "single instance" (if so, how do you know)?

I just summoned a second "Eater of The Dead" (in same province as first one, if that matters). It happily took my gems, but says "Noone answered the spell", and I have just my original EoTD in existence. Or, is it a chance thing, regardless of instances?

Redeyes · #2 September 16th, 2012, 07:59 AM

There's a few spells like this, but most give you one of a few possible summons. If another player manages to summon a being before you you can't get it.

There's 3 elemental queens of water and 3 of air. There's 2 kings of earth and 2 of fire. You can also summon Anthrax, the banefire king, with death, and the earth king Father Illearth with blood.

Some blood summons also work like this, there's 6 Ice Devils, 5 Arch Devils, 4 Heliophagus, and 4 Demon Lords.

You can get one of 6 Spenta when using Call Amesha Spenta. Hinnom can get one of 6 different Grigori when using Release Lord of Civilization. Mictlan can get one of 4 Tlaloques when using Summon Tlaloque. C'tis can summon the Devourer of Souls. Sauromatia and La Pythium can summon the Daughter of Typhoon.

I think that's all for Vanilla, but mods can add more. CBM adds a few (three for Agharta summoned with Open the Seal. One with the fire ritual "Quest for the Firebird", although I think that one might use a somewhat different mechanic).

Soyweiser · #3 September 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM

That seems to be a rather complete list Redeyes. Good work. CBM firebird is also unique. No special mechanics iirc.

Redeyes · #4 September 16th, 2012, 12:57 PM

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That seems to be a rather complete list Redeyes. Good work. CBM firebird is also unique. No special mechanics iirc.

Well, it gets a different name every time it's summoned. I assumed it was some odd constraint with modding and perhaps not wanting to use a nametype just for it.

Soyweiser · #5 September 16th, 2012, 01:12 PM

That is probably just the lack of a nametype.

(That is also what makes modding hero units harder).

JonBrave · #6 September 16th, 2012, 02:18 PM

Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)

momfreeek · #7 September 16th, 2012, 02:30 PM

Can all of these be resummoned once they are killed? I know this works for demon lords, I asume it works for the rest?

Anaconda · #8 September 16th, 2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBrave

Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)

I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.

JonBrave · #9 September 16th, 2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBrave

Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)

I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.

Thank you. (Shame it still takes my gems then!)
Is this information stored in a file (text editor, tool needed?), or would this be hard-coded?

Anaconda · #10 September 16th, 2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBrave

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Originally Posted by Anaconda

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Originally Posted by JonBrave

Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)

I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.

Thank you. (Shame it still takes my gems then!)
Is this information stored in a file (text editor, tool needed?), or would this be hard-coded?

I just draw conclusions based on the flavor text and the fact you cant summon more than one (iirc). I think these matters are "case sensitive"?