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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Wish: Add movement class "Snow track" for units which are designed to drive in snow, mud and swamp. Give them the same bonus in those terrains as you give for snow vehicle class currently (Bv 206 and similar).

What possible purpose would be served by duplicating that as a movement class?

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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:32 AM

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Wish: Add movement class "Snow track" for units which are designed to drive in snow, mud and swamp. Give them the same bonus in those terrains as you give for snow vehicle class currently (Bv 206 and similar).

What possible purpose would be served by duplicating that as a movement class?

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There are units which use the Bv 206 (or NA-140 or similar vehicles) as a base but are not of a class snow vehicle.

Finland - obat65:
Units 035-037 NA-140 Nasu TOW, Class 19 - SP ATGM
Unit 334 Nasu SP-Mortar, Class 38 - SP Mortar

Sweden - obat66:
Units 181-182 9cm PvPjbv 2062, Class 33 - Light Amphibian
Units 196-197 PvRbbv 2063, Class 34 - Heavy Amphibian
Units 200-201, PvPjbv 2062 56, Class 34 - Heavy Amphibian
Unit 231-232, Bv 202/206 Ammo, Class 56 - Ammo Carrier
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Old November 29th, 2012, 05:23 PM

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Default Re: Ideas how to improve WinSP MBT/WW2 !

Here's the total list of what I could find. However I am not familiar with the configuration of BV's around the world so if they had narrower tracks or anything then this doesn't apply to them. Mostly I'm pointing at Chile here.

Netherlands, Italy and Chile probably could get their units reclassified as Snow Vehicles and be fine with it. If the change is doable in code without side effects then in my opinion it is worth doing.

Russia (and previously Soviet Union) has also had equipment similar to this, but seems to be missing from the OOBs. (http://www.army-technology.com/proje...acked-vehicle/ and http://www.unusuallocomotion.com/alb...yaz-dt-10.html )

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      nation       | unit_no |      name       |         class         
-------------------+---------+-----------------+-----------------------
 Great Britain (7) |     383 | BV 202 Mortar   | 133 - Light SP Mortar
 Great Britain (7) |     384 | BV 202 Mortar   | 133 - Light SP Mortar
 Netherlands (28)  |     321 | Bv 202          | 33 - Light Amphibian
 Netherlands (28)  |     322 | Bv 206          | 33 - Light Amphibian
 Netherlands (28)  |     323 | BVS10           | 33 - Light Amphibian
 Netherlands (28)  |     385 | Bv 202 Ammo     | 56 - Ammo Carrier
 Netherlands (28)  |     386 | Bv 206 Ammo     | 56 - Ammo Carrier
 Norway (29)       |      35 | Bv 206N 81mm    | 38 - SP Mortar
 Norway (29)       |      37 | Bv 206N TOW     | 129 - Light SP ATGM
 Norway (29)       |      38 | Bv 202N ENTAC   | 19 - SP ATGM
 Italy (34)        |     203 | Bv 206 EI       | 33 - Light Amphibian
 Chile (59)        |     310 | Bv 206          | 26 - Utility Vehicle
 Finland (65)      |      35 | NA-140 Nasu TOW | 19 - SP ATGM
 Finland (65)      |      36 | NA-140 Nasu TOW | 19 - SP ATGM
 Finland (65)      |      37 | NA-140 Nasu TOW | 19 - SP ATGM
 Finland (65)      |     334 | Nasu SP-Mortar  | 38 - SP Mortar
 Sweden (66)       |      35 | Bgbv 120 Buffel | 37 - Engineer Tank
 Sweden (66)       |     181 | 9cm PvPjbv 2062 | 33 - Light Amphibian
 Sweden (66)       |     182 | 9cm PvPjbv 2062 | 33 - Light Amphibian
 Sweden (66)       |     196 | PvRbbv 2063     | 34 - Heavy Amphibian
 Sweden (66)       |     197 | PvRbbv 2063     | 34 - Heavy Amphibian
 Sweden (66)       |     200 | PvPjbv 2062 56  | 34 - Heavy Amphibian
 Sweden (66)       |     201 | PvPjbv2062 56TI | 34 - Heavy Amphibian
 Sweden (66)       |     231 | Bv 202 Ammo     | 56 - Ammo Carrier
 Sweden (66)       |     232 | Bv 206 Ammo     | 56 - Ammo Carrier
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There are units which use the Bv 206 (or NA-140 or similar vehicles) as a base but are not of a class snow vehicle.


Checking back to emails Andy and I exchanged last Febuary we had discussed doing this but the basic change had already been made to the snow vehicle class and other things came up and it fell off the radar. It's back on the to-do list now.


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