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Old April 16th, 2013, 09:07 AM
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Hey Pat, here's something for you.

Confirm or deny this claim:

"Uganda received 44 T-90SA in 2011 "


http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product889.html

claims 100

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Old April 17th, 2013, 01:56 AM
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Saw this just before getting ready for work. I will tell you this is much like the issue I had with Ethiopia getting the T-90S if you remember from about 1 1/2 years ago. This is early and except for Greece have had no time for OOB checks. I can only confirm the following so far...
1. Not looking good for UPDF having the T-90S or T-90SA. Some sites question whether they even operate the T-72. I feel confident they do operate the T-72 but which one is my issue.
2. Can confirm they still operate the T-55 and T-62. Also strong evidence to support that most if not all of the T-55 tanks operated have been upgraded to the T-55AM by 2012. Start date sometime in late 2010 (Fall) to mid 2011.
3. A multitude of good sources speak of a sell of the T-90S to Greece. However due to Greek finances the deal was reduced to a purchase of around 50 T-80 tanks. Neither is in the Greek OOB at this time. Just note it for now I'm not done here until above gets resolved.
4. Can only confirm that ALGERIA and possibly Venezuela (Does operate the T-90S.) operate the T-90SA. Again early in this process as well. There is some difference in the type but enough for game purposes is yet to be determined.
5. This is an update. T-72 tanks might have come from the UKRAINE which supposedly undercut the RUSSIANS. Had this and I might as well give it to you now. Note the date and last sentence.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...a-turkmenistan


The above site (Yours) is good normally and one of the few to track contracts. Though I have one other that does as well.
For others a lessons learned session...
Issue with most sites is updating of their equipment libraries same sites will outstrip them on the news side of the house which is where they make their money, just something to keep in the back of your mind when basing decisions on one or two sites for equipment.

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Never mind my feelings on the source, but how confident and for the sake of argument do Andy and you feel about SIPRI? Not giving you both anything as I want an unbiased assessment on the question and no I'm not playing any games here. I'm too tired for that and it's late and I need some sleep before another lovely day at work.
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For everyone else...
Refer to MBT Thread Posts #213-#215 Pg. 22 & #227 Pg. 24 (Concerning the Chinese TYPE 99.)

Don,
I know this is the start of your "downtime" so if nothing else just consider this a "tickler file" from me until you're ready to respond down the road.
Poking around I noticed you took action on the tanks listed in those posts. My question pertains to the following tanks in regards to the TI/GSR...
1. CHALLENGER 2 from about 2006/2007 would've req. a new unit.
No increase in TI/GSR or FCS/RR.
2. LEOPARD 2A7+
No increase in TI/GSR.
The next two do "appear" to have increased FCS/LR numbers over last year but, I didn't record all of those numbers before loading Patch 7.0 (That's on me.) for all the tanks I listed in the above posts.
3. OPLOT-M unfortunately the manufacturer only lists the specs for the OPLOT and not the OPLOT-M which is not surprising as the OPLOT-M is not for export which we learned from the Thailand tank deal.
4. LECLERIC
Wasn't expecting a TI/GSR increase here as noted, but again looks like the FCS/LR was increased, if it was it would have been warrented to do so as the FCS certainly would've supported it.

Just asking if I need to provide further info for the next patch or not.

NO HURRY AND OR WORRIES HERE/ENJOY LIFE A LITTLE BEFORE YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ANSWER THIS. BESIDES I'VE BEEN DIRECTED TO DO SO MYSELF IF YOU CATCH MY MEANING!?! THANKS!!!

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The next two do "appear" to have increased FCS/LR numbers over last year but, I didn't record all of those numbers before loading Patch 7.0 (That's on me.) for all the tanks I listed in the above posts.
3. OPLOT-M unfortunately the manufacturer only lists the specs for the OPLOT and not the OPLOT-M which is not surprising as the OPLOT-M is not for export which we learned from the Thailand tank deal.
4. LECLERIC
Wasn't expecting a TI/GSR increase here as noted, but again looks like the FCS/LR was increased, if it was it would have been warrented to do so as the FCS certainly would've supported it.

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3/ OPLOT-M--no change from v6

4/ LECLERIC --no change from v6



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Don,
Thanks for getting back! I'll revisit this later in the year. First two will be easy. My headache will be how to deal with the following after I look into it further.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2593.html
ATTICA I believe is what was installed on the LEO 2A7+ which is why it made my list. Again I'll need to verify this from my notes.
For the last two I do feel good about the OPLOT-M but the LECLERIC might be moved into the "club" later as I'm seeing data concerning the, and please people going strictly by memory here for the name and spelling, the "CARINE" system.
But now my need is for some sleep.
Thanks again Don.
Everyone have a good night/day!!

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The LECLERC newer FCS was IRIS put on the LECLEC T9 variant. See more in the MBT Thread.

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Don,
At your leisure only please, would like your thoughts on the following...
1. INDIA: ADD/MiG-29K/As you know this is the Russian Naval version. India just last month commissioned it's first INA Squadron. They will operate off the INS VIKRAMADITYA which Russia is due to deliver later this year, however as you know as well they could operate off any military airfield. Do you think it worth our time?

2. Tank vision issue...Are you willing to do 45 TI/GSR? Last I posted on FRANCE's LECLERC (FCS IRIS) and ITALY's ARIETE (FCS GALILEO) I felt reasonably sure that the newer versions of these tanks should have the 50 TI/GSR we've started to update in the last patch on some other tanks. The following are my main concerns right now, LECLERC is simply a ref. issue w/a 50/50 split on those that support 40 and those that support 50 in TI/GSR. ARIETE is to a lesser degree about refs. but more a technical one dealing with the FCS, specifically the ARIETE only uses components of the GALILEO system. In contrast the CENTAURO uses the full system which makes sense as part of it's intended mission is long range RECON/Surveillance and I'll be requesting the type to be bumped up to 50 TI/GSR in the next PP in this thread. The compromise is the only way I can reconcile these two tanks at this time. By the same token I do understand the possible future of the proverbial "opening of the flood gates".

Thanks in advance! Also saw your last in the APC Thread. Just like you to put those two BRADLEYS together so I'd miss at least one. Well you gotta blame someone after all!?!

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