US OOB 12 corrections/suggestions (v.6)

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by cbo

Problem with sandbags is that it works something like ERA - i.e. it protects against the first hit, but is blown apart and away, leaving the tank with only the main armour to deal with the next rounds.

Maybe not exactly. First, the next hit would have to be in the same area. Secondly, I believe, that a thin HEAT stream makes a hole in a sandbag, and then loses its energy on sand inside. Some sand spills through the hole, but sandbags from above should drop a bit lower then, filling a gap.

Michal

[cbo]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

Maybe not exactly. First, the next hit would have to be in the same area. Secondly, I believe, that a thin HEAT stream makes a hole in a sandbag, and then loses its energy on sand inside. Some sand spills through the hole, but sandbags from above should drop a bit lower then, filling a gap.

The jet is not the problem - it is the huge bang when the HEAT round goes off. While part of the explosive force is directed, the rest is not. The secondary effect is considerable.
German tests vs add-on-armour in WWII showed that a 75mm HEAT round could shatter armour plate and rip the mounts apart, so even that would only be a one-shot-protection.

Rather than a little hole in one bag, you would have the entire side or front of the tank stripped of bags, leaving large areas unprotected.

Try looking up some HEAT detonations on the web to see the effects

Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y_WAOp8WMA

[Pibwl]

A minor issue:

120 P-51B Mustang - it should be in fact A-36A Apache variant, used during Sicily landing (P-51B came to Europe from 10/43 only). This variant was armed in 6 instead of 4 x .50 MGs.

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[Pibwl]

As I wrote in Polish thread, P-51D Mustangs should have speed =8 (now 7)

[Pibwl]

Disregard remarks on aircraft speed

340 MHarrington T16 - correct name is Herrington (maybe M-H?). It should have single-tuuret icon (maybe 998 of Pz I, with turret also on the right, and same color). Same for 209 in USMC OOB.

112 M2A2 "Mae West" could have winter icon 4235 and desert 4232.

Michal

[PvtJoker]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

As I wrote in Polish thread, P-51D Mustangs should have speed =8 (now 7)

Actually, 636 km/h at 1,500 meters

I don't know where you got Speed 8, though, since max. speed at altitude was 437 mph (= 703 km/h) by multiple sources.

(In any case it's a good example how much slower high altitude fighters could be at low altitude)

[Pibwl]

Maybe it's worth to give MG-armed jeep an own picture? I'm attaching a few proposals (BTW: it proved difficult to find good wartime photos of a jeep with .50 on a standard pedestal).

It would be:
- US: 34, 367, 377
- USMC: 367, 372, 375 (BTW: maybe USMC oob should also have unarmed utility variant?)
- UK: 233 (with Vickers though)
- France: 94, maybe 290 (BTW: maybe France should also have unarmed utility variant?)
- China: 13, 134, 311 (BTW: maybe China should also have unarmed utility variant? Or maybe Chinese utility variant should have no MG at all?)
- Netherlands: 317
- ANZAC: 113 (with Bren though), 116

Also, I believe it's worth to copy armoured jeep 227 from French OOB to US OOB as a scout vehicle - they were relatively common from 7/44 at least.

Michal