Cross Objective Flag Roundel MoD

[ERISS]

Free French roundel is not beautiful.
Maybe this (400x400, is to be reduced):

This was a circle, jpeg did not keep transparancy borders.
It's taken from naval Free French flag (which was the 1st one created Croix-de-Lorraine FF flag).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ree_France.svg

[Cross]

Originally Posted by ERISS

Free French roundel is not beautiful.
Maybe this (400x400, is to be reduced):

This was a circle, jpeg did not keep transparancy borders.
It's taken from naval Free French flag (which was the 1st one created Croix-de-Lorraine FF flag).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ree_France.svg

This roundel mod is aimed at historical accuracy rather than beauty. One exception is the Poland LWP roundel which needed to be created to distinguish it from the regular Poland roundel.

I'm sorry the Free French roundel is not beautiful to you but perhaps it was to the Free French fighting the war?



Am I right in thinking you took the rectangular Free French naval ensign and modded it into a roundel?

Did the Free French Naval Forces include aircraft, and did those aircraft use a different roundel than other Free French aircraft?

cheers,
Cross

[ERISS]

Originally Posted by Cross

This roundel mod is aimed at historical accuracy rather than beauty.
I'm sorry the Free French roundel is not beautiful to you but perhaps it was to the Free French fighting the war?

I didn't understand that you used aircratf roundel.
You're right, but if you want more historical accuracy (and beauty), you should make the cross thikier (and maybe the horizontal bar a little less wide?), as your cross does not really seem a good Croix de Lorainne, yours seem an aiming tool for enemies lol (not only ingame).
Your flag is okay.
Thanks for your good work (oh, I just see the reputation tool of the forum...)

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Originally Posted by ERISS

I didn't understand that you used aircratf roundel.
You're right, but if you want more historical accuracy (and beauty), you should make the cross thikier (and maybe the horizontal bar a little less wide?), as your cross does not really seem a good Croix de Lorainne, yours seem an aiming tool for enemies lol (not only ingame).
Your flag is okay.
Thanks for your good work (oh, I just see the reputation tool of the forum...)

I researched the Free French roundel when I made this mod, and by looking at WWII photos I concluded there probably wasn’t a clearly communicated dimensional standard for the cross.

A good example is the above photo where the under-wing cross is thin compared to the cross on the fuselage. Another photo even has a Free French ‘budded cross’ on a white circle.

In looking at contemporary examples, the roundel is typically a thin cross.
The French ‘Free French’ Wikipedia page has the roundel just like the design I’ve used:



The above is a screen print from the French Wikipedia page, after a Google translation into English. You can see that the Free French Navy use a thick cross, but tanks and aircraft were supposed to have the narrow cross.

Here’s the website for the above image:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forces_...A7aises_libres

If I were to make the horizontal bar less wide, it would match the 'Croix de Lorainne' on the flag, but not the roundel.

But please show me if you have any good sources on the roundel.

Thanks,
Cross

[ERISS]

Originally Posted by Cross

A good example is the above photo where the under-wing cross is thin compared to the cross on the fuselage. Another photo even has a Free French ‘budded cross’ on a white circle.

In looking at contemporary examples, the roundel is typically a thin cross.
The French ‘Free French’ Wikipedia page has the roundel just like the design I’ve used:



The above is a screen print from the French Wikipedia page. You can see that the Free French Navy use a thick cross, but tanks and aircraft were supposed to have the narrow cross.

But please show me if you have any good sources on the roundel.

I feel wikipedia comes from this photo where the cross has been badly drawn under the wing. You may be right, but I think wikipedia took for the right roundel a bad example. Yes I have to search for sources (but you already had seen the one on the fuselage, which is good).
Here is the author of the roundel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alkivar

EDIT: not skinny one, on fuselage:
http://www.francaislibres.net/pages/index.php?id=8

[ERISS]

http://www.livresdeguerre.net/forum/sujet.php?sujet=450

[Cross]

Eriss,

Giving me a link to a picture of a shield is not helpful, because it's not a roundel.

WWII pictures of roundels really only establishes what we already know:
Free French aircraft used at least five different styles of cross, including the main three I posted in a screen print in post #6.

What I would be interested in, is which was the official roundel, if such a thing existed.

At the moment, the only reference to an official aircraft roundel I have, looks like the one in the image below:



I won't change the mod unless I get a decent source showing another roundel was the 'correct' one.

However, post an image of what you'd like it to look like, and perhaps I'll be able to make a personalised roundel for you.



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