IDF OOB project.

[gingertanker]

Yeah I understand...So basically this will require changing the code Any chance of that happening or is it loads of work?

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by gingertanker

Yeah I understand...So basically this will require changing the code Any chance of that happening or is it loads of work?

I've added the 2 engineer vehicle unit classes to the protected passengers types so they will behave as APC. Unless front armour is 0 - then its still unprotected on the off-chance we have an engineer type APC with soft skin (unlikely!).

(Haven't tested it as yet, but the code change was 5 minutes work. I'll just need to put an engineer APC with passengers on the firing range and hose it down with HMG fire to check it works.)

Looking at the OOBs, engineer tanks already have 0 carry, and only "Engineer APC" i.e. those engineer tank types with a carry capacity as well as a roller or blade equipment, do. We will still need to give the OOBS a thorough comb through.

Now those "Engineering APC" types will not have the pax behave as tank riders when under fire any more, so an engineer APC will be a good way to get some foot engineers forwards to aid the work.

Not added to WW2 as yet - but may be if there are engineer APC types found there. We will have to troll the data there to check, but it looks like engineering APC are a post-war thing.

Andy

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All I've come across thus far was...
1. Non-Winch equipped M3 Halftracks carried a roller which laid down a material that allowed the M3 to cross some trenchs of limited width.

2. The SdKfz 251/5 was a designated version typed as an "Assualt Engineer Carrier" still trying to find particulars on this, but my guess is it's more heavily armored.

A couple of other types that came up in that search I don't know are in the game (WinSPWW2) are...

3. The SdKfz 251/20 Uhu (Owl). These vehicles were designed in support most notably of specialized units trained in night combat with supporting PANTHER tanks. They were equipped with IR search lights and "other specialized equipment".

4. And finally the BREN "WASP" flame-thrower carrier. If you own the Blu-Ray (Don't know about other formats.) of "A Bridge To Far" at the beginning of the movie (Using actual WWII footage of this and other...) they show 3 or 4 on the move attacking a position.

But I feel Andy is right about the "APC" engineer type vehicles, seems more a post war item. Items 1 & 2 are the closest I can find so far.

I'll amend the above for the German side the SdKfz 251/5 and 251/7 WILL fit the bill this ref. shows a rendering of the latter but the descriptions of each would to my mind "seal the deal" below. Further down based on my search is info on the UHU/OWL note from it's rendering the night binos that seem to have some kind of tech associated with them mounted on the forward MG. They don't look like typical Naval night search "binos" of the era. Interesting.
http://axistanksworldwarii.devhub.co...enpanzerwagen/
http://fallschirmjager.tumblr.com/po...u-sdkfz-251-20

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Wanted to post this ref as well it notes that the SdKfz 251/20 worked in a Unit of one of these with 6 IR equipped PANTHERS and Infantry with specialized night combat equipped weapons (With VAMPIRE scopes.) to protect the 251/20 UHU, Range of it's IR Searchlight was 1.5km.
The troops were carried in the SdKfz 251/21 FALKE (See REF 1 from previous post. Also these were IR equipped as well.) These units/battle groups saw combat on both fronts from 1944 on.
http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/251-20.htm
http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/infrared.htm
http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/vampire.htm
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/german-...heinwerfer.htm

Sorry I strayed with this last, but can you imagine if they had more of these units/battle groups?

Regards,
Pat