AA Radar Question

[Mobhack]

100 is IIRC equivalent to FC 1, so 101 would be a value of 2 FC for a non-radar equipped AAA unit. So a slight typo in the GG is all.

Andy

[PvtJoker]

Originally Posted by Mobhack

100 is IIRC equivalent to FC 1, so 101 would be a value of 2 FC for a non-radar equipped AAA unit. So a slight typo in the GG is all.

Andy

So basically the OOBs are full of radar guided AA guns with the equivalent of FC 1, which is typically allocated to WW2 style AAMGs with a simple ring sight? And nobody has noticed that before? I know this is a game primarily about tanks and stuff like AA guns are in a minor part, but here's another example from Russian OOB:

• Unit 400 BTR-40A: FC2
• Unit 402 ZSU-23-4 Shilka: FC100

So, in a good weather and daylight the BTR-40A with a WW2 style mechanical predictor sight is more likely to hit aircraft than the Shilka, which has a radar coupled to an analog electronic fire control computer?

For what it's worth, historically the Shilka worked so well that the Israelis had to stop flying below 5,000 feet unless absolutely necessary until they found ways to suppress or destroy the vehicles. Another FC100 weapon in the game (it seems), the Oerlikon 35mm guns with radar and integrated fire control computer, worked so well in the Falklands that British Harriers were forbidden to fly closer than 3,000 meters to known battery locations.

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by PvtJoker

So basically the OOBs are full of radar guided AA guns with the equivalent of FC 1, which is typically allocated to WW2 style AAMGs with a simple ring sight? And nobody has noticed that before? I know this is a game primarily about tanks and stuff like AA guns are in a minor part, but here's another example from Russian OOB:

• Unit 400 BTR-40A: FC2
• Unit 402 ZSU-23-4 Shilka: FC100

So, in a good weather and daylight the BTR-40A with a WW2 style mechanical predictor sight is more likely to hit aircraft than the Shilka, which has a radar coupled to an analog electronic fire control computer?

Interesting read. However, as I get overwhelmed at times with the massive amount of data required to build and play scenarios in this game, if we look at the Fire Control (FC) ratings we should note the opposite here. A FC rating of 2 IS NOT more likely to hit target than a unit with a FC rating of 100 even if both units have eyes on the target or LOS.

From the Game Guide (GG): "The variable (FC) acts a little like a range finder, below, but not so much, in allowing the unit to engage with better to-hit percentages at longer ranges."

BTR-40A: FC 2, RF 1, Stabilizer 0
ZSU-23-4: FC 100, RF 6, Stabilizer 2

Clearly, the Shilka is a better AA unit than the BRT-40A even if the latter has not moved in the prior turn as per the huge difference in the Stabilizer rating.

Hmm... the authors of the GG must not have studied English in the real West, as Stabilizer is incorrectly spelled as Stabiliser.

Smile.

[scorpio_rocks]

Originally Posted by shahadi

Hmm... the authors of the GG must not have studied English in the real West, as Stabilizer is incorrectly spelled as Stabiliser.

Smile.

TeeHee - I think you will find the guide is written in English (not some bastardised, colonial offshoot )

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by scorpio_rocks

TeeHee - I think you will find the guide is written in English (not some bastardised, colonial offshoot )

"Go West, young man, and grow up with the [world] country." Horace Greeley. circa 1865. Addition and emphasis my own.

Smile, you know we got it good on the west side, where the sun still shines, the babes smile your name, and you can ride a convertible all day long, into the sunset, and you ain't gotta use no AK-47!

Hoorah