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August 12th, 2002, 12:41 AM
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
Most PBW games use vanilla SE4.
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August 12th, 2002, 06:51 AM
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
One day when I get sick of the Standard Game, I'll switch to a mod, but that day still hasn't arrived, even after 12 months.
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August 12th, 2002, 02:15 PM
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
I love the standard game, but I played Proportions a few months back and now I'm hooked. All my vsAI are proportions these days. It will take something really special to drag me away from that. (Derek's Mod?)
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August 12th, 2002, 02:20 PM
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
My only gripe with Proportions is damn pacifist AI - reflection of PvK philosophy, I guess 
For my games I copied AI_anger and politicics files from corresponding TDM races. Now I have a really bloodthirsty Sergetti and Crystoline !
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August 12th, 2002, 02:49 PM
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
I'm in a really cool vsAI game at the moment where I started in the same system as a xenophobic neutral (ClukRuk) - they declared on me immediately (as did all the other neutrals I've met since) and have been really making my life difficult, because it's hard for mee to get those slow colonisers out of the system. Without extra- system resources I can't out-produce him and if I can't do that I can't beat him.
I managed to overwhelm his fleets using boarding parties (heheheheh=-) but all the captured ships sent me bankrupt! Now I've had to mothball loads of space stations and freeze most of my construction queues while I try to ramp up my resource production. Maybe then I can knock out his defence stations and land some troops.
All this has taken 50 or 60 turns - you just wouldn't get that kind of epic campaign in a standard game- especially against a neutral.
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August 12th, 2002, 02:52 PM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
Interesting. I never played Proportions with Neutrals. My experiance with non-moded SE was that neutrals only make life easier. May be I should give them another sporting chance.
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August 12th, 2002, 03:03 PM
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Re: Anyone play without mods?
That's another reason why Proportions is so cool - neutrals are significant powers rather than just cannon fodder. Because the homeworld is so important, a one- system empire can have an economy (and therefore military) to rival an interstellar empire until well into the late game.
It would be interesting to play Proportions *as* a neutral...
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