APC Development and related topics.

DRG · #1 January 19th, 2015, 03:15 PM

Well, well this is interesting........ the stated effective firing range at night for a T-64 A and B is 600m, or in game terms.. 12 hexes. 1500 after modernization..... 30 hexes

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #2 January 20th, 2015, 03:35 AM

Now you know why I've used this site (OPLOT/OPLOT-M) and have kept it but, the "boys" from Ukraine I'm sure have contacts or use the site themselves. Any way I show the history tank section this might be of some general use especially dealing with pre and WWII tanks. The site is rich in data after all this plant has been making tanks for over 75 years. The cautionary note here is dealing with the upgrades available that the data fields are looked at completely so as not to miss items such as gun upgrades and protection benefits (With tested values.)of items such as ERA like NOZH etc. You have to remember they are in the business to make money and have been very successful in the export business in countries like Thailand and Iraq.
http://morozovkmdb.com/eng/body/tank...?page=history5

I don't know where we're at with the Ukrainian tanks but the last one I submitted was the OPLOT-M and modifications to the OPLOT. So I suspect at least a couple of these will need to be submitted. Further I will move this post to it's home thread later just wanted to wrap this "chain of events" up here.
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t72ua1.htm
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64e.htm
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64b1m.htm
(JANE'S (And others.) has reported the two above as in service, there are reports of a T-64B2M as well FCS upgrades probably in line with the T-84 below. Also it seems the T-72UA1 MIGHT BE in service as well though they have better options in the field now.)
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64bm_bulat.htm
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t84.htm
(For reference to the previous ref above.)

A note on NOZH is that it has very similar characteristics of the same armor package used on the MERKAVA. It is in essence a further development of KONTACT-5 which Russia a couple of years ago (In MBT Thread.) accused the Ukraine of stealing. As noted it improves protection especially when used in conjunction with "conventional" ERA. Right now not many reports of Ukrainian T-72 or OPLOTs being used actively in the current crisis. Same for reports that the T-72BM3 is operating within the Ukraine sightings thus far have been confirmed as newer T-64 variants and possible older T-72 types. However the T-72BM3 has been confirmed on being seen inside the Russian border with the Ukraine. Again some of this is in the MBT Thread.

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #3 January 21st, 2015, 01:07 AM

Well this has long been "what if'd" , wish listed, do they or don't they etc. I can't do better than DID covered this topic from the start of their site. Again refs/additional readings are both highlighted in blue and certainly covered at the end of this article. USMC amphib "hopes and desires" with a dose of reality and a little "we're still waiting on a decision" is all rolled into this article covering 2001 to the present. This reading is not for the faint of heart it is long by even their standards.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...updated-02302/

It's as good as it gets no fuss no mess, I just wait a decision to do what I do. The only question I have for now is does our AAV-7 meet the current/coming improvement standards?

Regards,
Pat