Something Odd

[Mobhack]

Which scenario is this one?

I moved a panzer 1 to a vehicle entrenchment on the hill, and it became dug-in after a turn or so.

I also moved a scout car in the rear to one of the (invisible) entrenchments, and it too became dug-in in that hez, but no visible entrenchment appears.

I also moved a motorcycle to one of those invisible sandbag hexes and left it a couple of turns - but no such dice. But these invisible hexes are vehicle entrenchments, and a motorcycle is an infantry class.

Usually, when a unit that has moved and was originally entrenched becomes visible, then its entrenchment pops into view as well. But SP has always been a little bit spotty about this. An entrenchment is an attribute of the entrenched unit, not a separate entity.And sometimes strange things happen if a vehicle owns an unspotted entrenchment but is killed by say indirect fire - the vehicle wreck can be shown and the dead unit labelled as dug-in without the entrenchment being shown. Or a rifle element ditto, and you don't see this, but later on in fighting one of your infantry might suddenly become dug-in unexpectedly. And sometimes a unit in an entrenchment becomes invisible again (LOS lost or something) - the unit is removed from the map, but the entrenchment remains.

The key point is that it's the detection of the original occupant that determines the placing into view of the entrenchment icon for it for the opposing player, even if that entrenchment was a mile in the rear where the unit started its march from.

I could not see any vehicles (or guns, mortars or other circular sandbag pit users) that originally owned these hexes, though.
- they could be "phantom" entrenchments, if the scenario designer deleted the vehicles and forgot to clear up (Hit E key)
- The scenario designer may have placed vehicles there, then physically moved them, and not pressed the E key
- The scenario designer change the unit type (say to off map arty)
- Or perhaps they are there for some reinforcement vehicles which will come in later on at these spots as a big surprise to Jerry!.

That's why it would be nice to know exactly which scenario it was, if its a stock one, and so determine what was in those sandbag positions at the start (if anything).

[Warnevada]

It's scenario 447.

My opponent said that the stuff, mostly transport, that was in the entrenchments was moved off map.

I must say it strikes me as strange that entrenchments are an attribute of a unit, which can move, and not the hex which can't.

Although the sandbags are intended to protect vehicles, shouldn't infantry also get defensive benefits?