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Old November 22nd, 2015, 07:29 PM

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Default Re: Italy OOB 34 corrections/suggestions (v.8.1)

Small supplement:

78, 431 SMV M.43 105L25 - it has too much armour (now 9/5/3/9/5/3/2) - according to Military Vehicle Prints 36 by Nicola Pignato, armour was:
- hull 50 (at 35 deg, but photos suggest some 50-55 deg)/25/25,
- turret: 75 (vertical)/25 (at 75 deg)/25.
Basic icon should be green 1910 (now it has too long barrel).


344 Sz Breda 13.2mm, 657 Breda 13.2mm MG - it doesn't seem, that 13.2mm Breda was used by ground army, especially in HMG role - http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_Mod._31 . It was basically a naval weapon and I've found no sign of it being used on ground tripod or other portable base. It's doubtful, that it supplemented or replaced 8mm MGs from 1943.

350 M-15 Quadrupolo - original designation is M15/42 Carro Contraereo (in short M.42 Contraereo or M15/42 CA, I suppose). Entered service only in 3/43 - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/M15/42 (apparently 1 or 2 prototypes only).
It had no BMG

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502 CV-38 - "it was not until mid-1942 when Ansaldo started modifying 200 tankettes with the new suspension"

505 CV-38/Brixia ...
371,502 CV-38 - it's worth to give it a real picture of CV-38, eg. http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8421/...befbd9ee29.jpg
(it was an unofficial designation for a variant with modified suspension, precisely L.38 - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV33)

It's better to rename 505 CV-38/Brixia to CV-35/Brixia - used earlier and more popular.

From 1939 CV-33 and 35 were renamed to L3/33 and L3/35 - maybe it would be good to introduce models with a new name, for a historical taste? We'll need CV-33 with 6.5mm MG only until 1938, early CV-35 until 1938, and from 1938 a single model L3/35 will be enough. Or it might be named L3-33/35 (form used eg. in Squadron/Signal book), or just L.3.
The same for flamethrower variant.
Other variants with special armament (L.3/Solothurn, 505 L.3/Brixia, 506 L.3 [13.2]) should have only new names. Also L.38 could be retained, although its only difference was a new suspension (and maybe higher speed? Though I couldn't find info).
Units 500-501, 503-504 can be replaced with these new ones.
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 03:39 PM

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Default Re: Italy OOB 34 corrections/suggestions (v.8.1)

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From 1939 CV-33 and 35 were renamed to L3/33 and L3/35 - maybe it would be good to introduce models with a new name, for a historical taste?
Correction - it was from 1938, though popular publications don't tell exactly when. Maybe 1/38 was a border.

It seems, that L 3-33 form is quite widespread, also in books - I always used L 3/33. As for plural, I've found both L 3-33/35 and L 3/33-35. Seems, that most publications use "L 3" with a space, rather not "L.3".
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