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Old March 15th, 2016, 08:47 PM
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Minor OOB name change request; OBAT 011 Russia.

Unit 131 MiG-15 SD-5

[is equipped with 100 kg bombs]

Yefim Gordon's Aerofax MiG-15 book says on page 32:

MiG-15bis (izdeliye SD-5) development aircraft
In November 1952 another MiG-15bis was converted at plant No 21 in Gor'kiy. The aircraft had D3-40 shackles for carrying two FFAR pods, each with eight ORO-57 launcher tubes for ARS-57 FFARs. Firing was electrically controlled; AKS-2 gun cameras were fitted aft of the pods to record test launches. Designated izdeliye SD-5, the aircraft was tested but did not enter production.


Solution: Simply rename Unit 131 from "MiG-15 SD-5" to "MiG-15bis"
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Russian 011 OBAT Date change request for IL-10/IL-10M:

Units:
126
127
937
938

Currently some of them last until either 12/1959 or 12/1964.

Apparently in 1956, the Soviets abolished attack "Sturmovik" aviation and retired the IL-10 en masse:

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/il10m.html

Google Translate reveals:

As of January 1, 1955 Soviet Army Air Force in its composition were 19 assault regiments, armed with 1700 consisted Il-10 and Il-10M and 130 jet fighter-bombers MiG-15bis.

In April 1956, Defense Minister Marshal Georgy Zhukov presented the leadership of the country prepared by the General Staff and the General Headquarters Air Force report on the state and prospects of development of attack aviation. The report concluded the low efficiency of storm troopers on the battlefield in modern warfare, and actually proposed to eliminate the attack aircraft, providing a solution to combat missions for close air support of ground troops in the offensive and defensive forces of bombers and fighter aircraft. As a result of discussion "at the top" order came from the Minister of Defence 20/04/56, according to which a part of the Air Force ground attack aircraft CA abolished available Il-10 and Il-10M written off "by Defense plan," aircrew partially retrained on MiG 15bis, and partly - transferred to fighter aircraft the Air Force and Air Defence. Along with the acceleration of assault by government decree aviation 04/13/56, it was stopped mass production of reactive armored attack aircraft IL-40 and stopped all development work on advanced aircraft-storming.


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Change Out of Service dates on IL-10/10M aircraft to 12/1956. This would represent some 'holdover' from the official order writing them off in April 1956 -- they're still there on the airfields, but no funding is authorized for them, until they're too far gone to bring back hurriedly.
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

Just a quick "one and done" from JANE's & DID about my "favorite" jet...
http://www.janes.com/article/59027/s...ll-plague-f-35
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...program-07501/


The semi-news concerns Denmark's decision along with Canada to either cancel or postpone their F-35 involvement. Canada is to restart their fighter competition I believe this summer/or fall, the F-35 will be allowed to compete again for the contract. There is "chatter" from both about the new GRIPEN that's been equipped with an advanced AESA Radar that will maintain this fighter in the 4th GEN+ category of jets which is also still considered an exclusive club of less then a handful of fighters worldwide. Again the "+" being the distinction here.

Also the USAF is already looking for the replacement for both the F-22 and F-35. Lockheed Martin however, is pushing for incremental packaged updates for both. But McDonnell Douglas and Boeing see things differently, they'd love to have a shot again with a fighter of their own. I think some of us will be "real" old by then and therefore not an issue.

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