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Old April 1st, 2016, 09:16 PM
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Here's the Arado 232A (2 engine) and Arado 232B (4 engine). LBMs for both are included as well.
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Speaking of design teams; here's a rough listing of how much was made for the Luftwaffe 1939-1945:

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I took the liberty of computing the numbers for just 1939-1943 to give an idea of who would have been on top in the timeline resulting in RecruitMonty's mod (1944-45 is an abnormal situation for the purposes of this mod).

Junkers: 18,019 aircraft, of which the majority (53%) is the Ju-88. But they are very diversified, with 2,469 transports (Ju-52,Ju-252,Ju-290,Ju-352) and 3,869 Ju-87 Stukas being built.

Messerschmidt: 17,853 aircraft, of which the majority (76%) are Bf-109s. Remainder of their product line is largely fighters (Bf-110, Me 210, Me 410).

Focke-Wulf: 6,584 aircraft, of which majority (83%) are FW-190 derivatives.

Heinkel: 5,761 aircraft, of which 85% are He-111 bombers.

Dornier: 2,330 aircraft, of which majority (58%) are Do 217 Bombers followed by 20% Do 17.

Henschel: 1,149 aircraft, of which 55% are Hs129 Strafers.

Gotha: 43 aircraft, of which 100% are Go 244 transports.

Likely prospects Post War: The Big Four (Junkers, Messerschmidt, Focke-Wulf and Heinkel) are likely to swallow up smaller competitors as the cost of military aircraft gets bigger and bigger with the coming of the Late Jet Age (1950s), then the first airborne computers (late 1950s, early 1960s).

According to Flying Magazine Sep 1945; it took the US in 1939 about 150,000 engineering man hours to bring a heavy bomber to just beyond prototype stage; but this had been increased to 1.5 million man hours for the B-29 at the same stage of development; so you can see where this is going.
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Likely prospects Post War: The Big Four (Junkers, Messerschmidt, Focke-Wulf and Heinkel) are likely to swallow up smaller competitors as the cost of military aircraft gets bigger and bigger with the coming of the Late Jet Age (1950s), then the first airborne computers (late 1950s, early 1960s).
Then again, this may not be the actual result. In the United States; Curtiss-Wright produced 29,269 airplanes and employed 180,000 workers and was #2 in total contracts awarded just behind General Motors.

Yet Curtiss-Wright's last plane made for the US military was the XF-87 Blackhawk in 1948; with the entire airplane division of Curtiss-Wright being sold 100% to North American Aviation after the F-87 contracts were cancelled.

Likewise, McDonnell Aircraft Corporation started in 1939 and spent most of WW2 being a major parts subcontractor for the bigger primes; and produced a few prototype aircraft, then got big with the jet age in aviation and then swallowed Douglas Aircraft to become McDonnell Douglas.

Then there's internal politics: the German aviation industry is pretty much a deliberate creation of the Reich Air Ministry (RLM); so politics is a big thing in it -- in May 1941, Milch managed to bring Junkers, Messerschmitt and Heinkel under near-direct RLM control by:

*Using the dud of the Me210 to force Willy Messerschmidt from managerial control

*Ending the RLM practice of advance payments for aircraft yet to be delivered to cause a financial crisis at Heinkel, to force Ernst Heinkel out of management.

*Forcing Junkers' chairman Heinrich Koppenberg, into retirement.

So there's a lot of room for flavor here for the late 1950s and early 1960s stuff; e.g. you might as well see the Me 910 Gerfalke instead of the MBB Gerfalke (Slots 764-769 in OBAT35 - Grossdeutsches Reich); as the mergers of Messerschmitt with Bölkow and Blohm + Voss might never happen -- or the corporate identities of the two lesser units are subsumed by the larger company, as what happened with North American Rockwell / Rockwell International and Boeing -- the NAA/Rockwell identity was destroyed in Boeing, to the point that Boeing basically threw away a good portion of the North American Rockwell archives in dumpsters following the merger.
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