Greek OOB31 v.9

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

99 Potez 25 - I've found (and cleaned ) a nice photo of a Greek Potez version, which had a different engine and rudder - attached

BTW, it had one fixed MG (two in total). Precisely it was variant A2 https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...avion-grecque/ )

Same picture, as proposed above, should be for 115 Potez 25 AOP. It was a special version for Greece only (as the link above says).

104 Potez 633 Grec - it was a bomber, armed with 2 MGs (now 4): https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...z-633-b2-grec/

Actually, only one MG was forward firing.

106 Fairey Battle - delivered in 3/40 according to official HAF page https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...ey-battle-b-1/

On a quoted page there is also a Greek photo, although not very good.

105 Hs 126A-1 - precisely, Hs 126K-6 https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...hel-hs-126k-6/

107 Blenheim Mk.IV [fighter-bomber] - now it is armed with 6 MGs and no bombs. While they were delivered without aiming devices and bomb rails, but they were modified to carry bombs in Greece (I guess, that no sooner, than in late 1940) - https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...lenheim-mk-iv/
The quoted HAF page does not mention extra MG armament (moreover, it mentiones only one turret MG). Greek Wikipedia does not treat about their MG armament at all.

There is a photo of Greek Blenheim IV http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...eim03kopia.jpg .

Greece also used British-delivered Blenheim IV in 1/42-1/43
https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...im-mk-iv-post/

122, 143 BR Blenheim I (3/41-5/41), Blenheim I (6/41-46) [level bombers] - precisely, Greek (not British) Blenheims I were used since 2/41 until the fall of Greece, and later this type was not used by Greece (and Blenheim I was rare also in British squadrons by then) - https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...blenheim-mk-i/
Later entry could be BR Blenheim IV

There might be also created a fighter-bomber variant of Blenheim I. https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...blenheim-mk-i/


There could be added Baltimore (British unit 354): https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...iii-iiia-iv-v/

125 Spitfire Mk.XIV (1946) - HAF official page page https://www.haf.gr/en/history/historical-aircraft/ does not mention high-performance Mk.XIV at all - but Spiftire Mk V was used since 1943 - https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...fire-mk-vb-vc/ (Mk IX and XVI arrived after 1946)

That's all with aircraft.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

That's all with aircraft.

Exactly HOW much longer is this "a couple of observations regarding Greek OOB" going to go on for ??

SOMEDAY I hope to be able to work on a game patch and do things that doesn't involve seemingly endless list from you.......I might actually be able to do work on the game that I actually want to do....

I knew as soon as I saw this there was no way this was only going to be what you said it would be........ a couple of observations ....... NOT

[Pibwl]

Well, I had a couple of observations prepared and did not mean to go deep... but as I started to dig, and found several good Internet resources, I got a bit carried away I guess this OOB was long forgotten and it needed to be done (like these fictional tanks). On the other hand, it's me, who is wasting time researching info and giving results , while you can just ignore it - or apply one day, if you find it worthy. So, forgive, and eventually skip ahead.

There's not much left - a bit on partisans and vehicles.

Regards
Michal

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

On the other hand, it's me, who is wasting time researching info and giving results

Just keep in mind this is something YOU decided all on your own needs doing........ nobody on this end asked for it to be done.

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by DRG

Just keep in mind this is something YOU decided all on your own needs doing........ nobody on this end asked for it to be done.

Naturally. I only meant, that if you don't find it worthy to apply, you can just ignore. Don't feel obliged. I only try to improve historical accuracy, giving some hints (and yes, I'm a bit of a picture aficionado). I think, that among the comments above there are at least several errors spotted, that are easy to be fixed, and should not stay.

As for sources - it's not easy to find something serious about Greek equipment, but all the info quoted above look reliable. I know limits of Wikipedia, but I treat it only as a help (if it doesn't mention about Greek usage of Valentines, it is some hint, if Greek pages don't confirm it either). On the other hand, if Greek Wikipedia says, that 6.5mm Hotchkiss were only Greek MGs apart from Chauchats, it is something to think about

[Pibwl]

A bit on partisans and fighting vehicles:
(mostly concern pictures - I have no interest myself in changing their pictures, but since I wrote it down several months ago, I'll continue)


383 LRDG Jeep - better photo, instead of just MGs, seems 12535/2559

406 EDES Partisans - a well-known photo 8792 is in fact leftist ELAS group http://ww2today.com/6-december-1944-...vene-in-greece , not nationalist EDES
I couldn't find a good photo described as EDES, but maybe these bearded guys from a bottom look more rightist (like EDES officers on the top) https://libcom.org/history/1941-1945...eek-resistance

400,401 EDES Demolition - a photo is a single Bren, which doesn't look like Demolition at all (and they have no LMG). The photo given above for ordinary EDES partisans might be better,

404,405 EDES Partisans - a photo is a wagon - as above.

424 ELAS Partisans - a better photo seems aforementioned 8792...

503 BR 2 Pdr Portee - photo is 6pdr, should be 12536

[IronDuke99]

Agree with Imp, don't think the photos matter all that much.