Nag ATGM

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I've got some good Basic info on the missle and the NAMICA launcher that I can turn into a best guesss weapons system, but if anyone has more complete info that would be helpful.... it't top attack but I have been unable to find any penetration info

Don

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Alright giving it my best shot-System first st appeared in 2008 per ref.2 picture in it's current form. Source was a Colonel in the Indian Army/also military editor for India's Business Standard/ I've used his defense website for years now BROADSWORD concerning India's defense activities.
Development started in the 80's. The claim it's better than the JAVELIN and SPIKE LR but factoring in Israeli help with the LAHAT for the ARJUN and current testing with Ukraine with the KOMBAT for the same, it probably is not quite on par with the first two. Heading there next or before I'm done. The first couple of refs. establish a baseline, ref. 4 a timeline, ref.5 sets a min. range of 500m, ref. 6 PEN #'s (I know there's some bias here however, I've found his data very through over the years I've looked at his site.) it's a tool if the numbers come close to ours., ref.7 Good picture of launcher firing the NAG.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/09/indi...uided-missile/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_(m...fexpo-2008.JPG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-SNVB5HuKY
https://sputniknews.com/asia/2017091...flight-trials/
https://currentaffairs.gktoday.in/3r...201747968.html
http://www.pmulcahy.com/atgm/indian_atgm.htm
https://www.defencenewsindia.com/ind...uided-missile/

From weapons sites with not much help...
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/nag.htm
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...uided-missile/

I know they want their own so why do this?
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...w-atgm-028081/

Lastly a good analysis of the ATGW.
http://www.asdnews.com/editorials/data/ta_022007.pdf

Unless again as pointed out above for ref. 6 PEN conversion, we just don't know right now partially because they're not quite done testing it. Therefore the only logical conclusion is the armor values are still classified. But that all being said, the press is pushing hard from military and DARDO on it's capabilities, also you can't ignore the international support as pointed out above for their tank launched ATGW's and finally I think tying in with the last is NAG's rapid development in the last 10 or so years which has included Israel being on the ground plus having to factor India not only buying the SPIKE LR but having made the deal to include it's production to be made in India.

So I feel the NAG as being a very capable ATGW that just falls short of the performance of both the SPIKE LR and JAVELIN BOTH of which have recently had their platforms modified to deal with the perceived heavier and better protected armor threat to the East.

By your "calculus" I would really be curious to see how or what ref. 6's armor PEN that converts to in our world. And then how it compares to our SPIKE LR and JAVELIN. It might not be a futile exercise but, it is beyond what I do here.

I know not want you wanted to hear.

Regards,
Pat


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[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

as pointed out above for ref. 6 PEN conversion

I do not use any data from that website.

The numbers we have for the weapon already in the game will be looked at now I know there are two versions NAG and HELINA. The numbers we have there now are for the NAG but are attached to Helo's so I need to build a HELINA version for them

As more data comes in we'll adjust as required including service dates which were a bit premature.... I'd forgotten these missiles AND the Namica...and the Icon for the Namica.... were already in the game for 7 years !!




off topic but I KNOW I rebuilt the turrets for the M1134 last year.... I am certain of it.....but they aren't in the game and I cannot find them in my files......very frustrating... I distinctly recall working on it from a good top down drawing

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Based on the data supplied on REFLEKS IVAR M/M1 Max. Rng. is at 5000m/5km. Ukraine tested their KOMBAT against it and the result was the same range with a higher degree of accuracy. Most ATGM's fall between 4km - 8km., REFLEKS first mod Max. effective range is at 4km with a much lower hit probably at that extended range. Point being they're not alone and this could be a "huge can of worms". SPIKE LR II and latest TOW come to mind as well.

ON the M1134 STRYKER you seem to in a manner indicate you can't find your source data as well. If so then...


Model makers are an excellent source for this kind of thing. So detailed orientated.

Regards,
Pat