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... you can't create a warp point that connects two systems when there already is a warp point that connects the systems... 
			
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 Can't you close one side and then create another - say over a heavily fortified planet - that now re-connects the 2 systems? Then locking the warp points using the associated tech? Yes.  Yes you can.  Unless someone else has locked one of the systems using the appropriate facility... 
  
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 I would think a way around it would be to use the Gravitational Condensor to destroy the warp point and then use the Gravitational Quantum Resonator to open a new one. 
 
But maybe the "unnamed" facility prevents the use of the Gravitational condensor? 
  
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    quote:  there is a facility that prevents warp point openings and closeings in a system.  
			
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 What is it? I'm Away From The Computer With SE4.  AFTCwSE4 should be a new acronym I'm gonna start using.   
 
It's in the stellar manipulation tree.  It's quite high up in the tree.  It's called System Gravitation Shield.  It takes a long time to build.   
 
Nonetheless, it is very worthwhile against human players, as it protects agains star destroyers as well. The TDM modpak A.I.'s will build it as well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Here is a list of the components one can get from Stellar Manipulation 
 
Beta Displacement Pulser 
Ionic Concussion Blaser 
Monolith Facility I 
Tectonic Bomb I 
Matter Gravity Sphere I 
Monolith Facility II 
Gravitational Condenser 
Gravitational Quantum Resonator I 
Tectonic Bomb II 
Matter Gravity Sphere II 
Monolith Facility III 
Gravitational Quantum Resonator II 
Techtonic Bomb III 
Matter Gravity Sphere III 
Gravitational Quantum Resonator III 
Stellar Plasma Sphere 
Ring World Placement Generator 
Planetary Gravity Plating 
Hyper-Density Cables 
Gravitational Quantum Resonator IV 
Stellar Nucleonic Torpedo 
Nebulae Graviton Emitter 
Quantum Graviton Beam 
Gravitational Quantum Resonator V 
Nucleonic Thresher Torpedo 
Inverted Quantum Beam 
Sphere World Placement Center 
 
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				 It is "System Gravitational Shield Facility" 
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 Quite useful in the middle & end game as it 
-stops all nebulae creating devices within the system 
-stops all black hole generating devices within the system 
-stops all star destroying devices within the system 
-stops warp points from being opened with the system 
-stops warp points from being closed within the system 
 
Hmmmmmmmm.... 
 
the Last benefit "-stops warp points from being closed within the system" means you cannot close a warp point in your system which is connected to the players system which has the SGS?  
 
If so, then the System Gravitational Shield Facility has an effect on other systems. 
  
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It is "System Gravitational Shield Facility" 
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		"the Last benefit "-stops warp points from being closed within the system" means you cannot close a warp point in your system which is connected to the players system which has the SGS?  
 
If so, then the System Gravitational Shield Facility has an effect on other systems." 
 
Correct, it does. It also stops people from opening warp points *to* the system with the shield. 
 
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