A puzzlement ...

geoschmo · #1 August 19th, 2002, 10:06 PM

I am not sure how hard it is. But you are the one not able to figure it out. The game is doing what it is supposed to do.

If your empire is designed for 3000 points, and you want to play a 2000 point game then the first time you have this problem and you change the settings to 3000 and then modify your empire to 2K and then change the settigns back to 2 K, what you do at that point is save your empire as a 2K empire. Then the next time you start a game and want to play a 2K game you load the 2K empire, and if you want to play a 3K game you load the 3K empire.

Why is that so hard to understand?

If you have the game automatically change the game settings as you seem to be suggesting, then what will stop you from inadvertantly loading a 5000 piont empire up to play against your 3000 point empire?

Geoschmo

[ August 19, 2002, 21:09: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Elowan · #2 August 19th, 2002, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
I am not sure how hard it is. But you are the one not able to figure it out. The game is doing what it is supposed to do.

If your empire is designed for 3000 points, and you want to play a 2000 point game then the first time you have this problem and you change the settings to 3000 and then modify your empire to 2K and then change the settigns back to 2 K, what you do at that point is save your empire as a 2K empire. Then the next time you start a game and want to play a 2K game you laoad the 2K empire, and if you wantt o play a 3K game you laod the 3K empire.

Why is that so hard to uinderstand?

Geoschmo

You still don't get it. I always play a 3k empire. Every time I click on Use Existing and try to load that one-and-only empire - the game won't load it until I change the new game settings to 3K!

It's the game that's defaulting to 2K! If it's smart enough to know the loading empire needs more points than the default - it should change them based on the racial point setting in the saved emp file!

geoschmo · #3 August 19th, 2002, 10:17 PM

Yes, I figured out that is what you were saying after I had already posted. I edited my message too late apoarently.

If you have the game automatically change the game settings then what will stop you from inadvertantly loading a 5000 piont empire up to play against your 3000 point empire?

The point of the game configure screens are to determine the parametaers the game will be played under, then you add your empires. They have to be set to something by default. 2000 is as good as anythign else. What you need, and I can't disagree it would be something nice to have, is a settings.txt file entry to change thedefault racial points for the game, like you can with max ships and other stuff.

But having the game automatically change the limit to accomodate your empire file choice would be a bad thing.

Geoschmo

geoschmo · #4 August 19th, 2002, 10:20 PM

Let me say it this way...

It's not a matter of the game not being smart enough to see how many points you used, it's a limit there to prevent you from using an empire with too many points for the game setup.

If you have the game automatically change the setup, what's the point of having a limit? You'd have to go in and check every empire to make sure they weren't using more points than you wnat them to for that game. Yeech!

Geoschmo

[ August 19, 2002, 21:21: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Cylapse · #5 August 19th, 2002, 10:27 PM

I concur. The thought of letting the Game adjust any settings for me is frightening, unless I have already specified and said "Save these Settings as is"... I mean ****, try letting the AI play your turn one day.... then come back and see if ya want it to **** the game settings all up as well. LOL

oleg · #6 August 19th, 2002, 10:39 PM

Elowan, adopt the following procedure:
When you start a new game, click on empire settings first, set it to 3K and then return to player menu and load your empire. What's a big deal about loading your empire first and foremost ? And how often to you start new games anyway ? Typical SE IV against AI should Last few days I think.

Elowan · #7 August 19th, 2002, 10:54 PM

I'm not sure that I follow you. I don't play PBW in the first place.

The bloody Amonkrie have a default 3K (AFAIK). They load as random opponents - right?

Besides - what's the difference if I set the racial points or the computer does? It's all the same except that the computer doesn't get annoyed at repetitious tasks - but I do.

My point - to re-iterate - is that the application has already determined that the racial points exceed 2K. It should assume that's what I had in mind (since I can change it if I wish). Is Malfador aspiring to become as patronizing as Microsoft?

End of discussion.