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Old November 29th, 2018, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: IDF OOB project.

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edit....forgot one the first time. There may be further adjustment before release. I'm not entirely happy with the Namer 30mm turret
loving the "colours" you are managing to create with the limited palette!
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This post was sourced using the IAF website and IAF Air Defense School website.

A recorded kill for the Chaparral on the 6th of May 74. This is the first recorded kill by the system world wide and also means we must change the start date to early 74. Also Unit 100 is named M730 while 101 is named M48A3. We either go with 730 or M48. In the USA OOB it is M48.

Unit 101 unless I am missing something is there to represent the Block 6 systems exported to Israel in early 1999. The difference in game seems to be better EW and vision. The weapon is identical(and should probably be renamed MIM-72). However in 1993 the IDF made upgrades to its Chaparrals, installing the "Aramit" system which improved the RADAR display and "improved target acquisition"...


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To represent the original Chaparral from 1974 until IDF upgrade
Unit 100: change name to "M48 Drakon" change start date to 1/74. End date to 12/93. Copy Stats from USA OOB unit 049, as currently this units is better than it's US counterpart which makes 0 sense.

To represent the IDF upgrade in 1993:
Unit 101: change Name to M48M Drakon . change start date to 1/93. Give it the EW and vision stats currently in unit 100.

To represent the systems imported in 1999:
Create a new unit copying the stats from USA unit 207, and name it M48A1 Drakon. Start date 1/99.

All of these can use the current icon 2223 so at least no modeling work!
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Old November 30th, 2018, 05:12 AM
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Unit 112: I can not source it but as mentioned in hebrew wikipedia and as AFAIK the HAWK was retired in 2014 to allow budgeting David's Sling/Magic Wand. To be conservative David's Sling became operational in 2/2016.

I suggest adding David's Sling to the OOB in the following manner:

Unit 112 : change end date to 12/16

Create a new weapon: "Stunner SAM" as for stats I am not sure because frankly I do not know how every stat works. But:
Range should be maxed out.
Minimum range should be quite short.
The warhead is not an explosive one but very fast and meant to kill targets by directly hitting them with KE. So it should probably have high HE pen and low HE kill?


After the weapon is sorted out -
Creat a new unit "David's Sling". Start date 2/16 end date 12/25. General stats should probably be similar to Unit 112 but with better radar (because it has both a more advanced radar and an electro optic system). In slot 1 weapon should be the one we just created "Stunner SAM". HE ammo should be 12.

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Old November 30th, 2018, 06:41 AM
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Unit 114 "Ha'Poretz" - do we know where the name came from? It translates to "The Breakthrough(er)". This seems like it was a name of a specific Sandwich with dozer blade. If so I would suggest - Change Unit 114 name to "Sandwich Dozer"



Units 117 and 123 should match the latest reserve Sh'ots in the OOB.
Unit 117 change end date 12/02
Unit 123 change end date 12/202


Unit 118 "Tiran Dozer" - I suggest change end date of Unit 118 to 12/89 to match the latest Tiran 5 date in the OOB.

Unit 124: as we don't have a reserve unit for the 90mm Mag'ach, I think we can change the end date to match unit 020. so Unit 124: change end date 12/69.

Unit 125 "M60 Mine Plough". The only Patton not renamed to Mag'ach in the OOB. Change unit 125 name to "Mag'ach Mine Plough".

Units 127-129 are Mine Roller variants of Merkavas. However dates and stats are mismatched with the MBT and Reserve Tank units. To fix this as much as possible I suggest:

Unit 127 Merkava 1 MR : Change start date 9/79 end date to 12/14.Match all stats to unit 057

Unit 128 Merkava 2 MR : Change start date 1/84 end date to 12/20.Match all states to unit 058.
You may notice this is past the latest Mk 2 in the OOB, but my old unit STILL runs them, so we must extend that date forward to reflect they were not removed!
So as a side note:
Unit 631 Merkava 2b: change name to Merkava 2B and change end date 12/20.
Unit 622 Merkava 2b: change name to Merkava 2B

Unit 129 Merkava Mk 3 MR : Change start date to 05/90. Match stats for unit 062 or 063
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