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Old October 28th, 2019, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Problems with the current Russian OOB (#11).

This will be investigated. Andy indicated to me he saw other issues with some of the weapons in this unitclass and would take a look after the new Year

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Fallout Re: Problems with the current Russian OOB (#11).

Here I was thinking I didn't want you (And now appears Andy as well.) to get to involved in these kind of issues!?! This almost appears as if we're "enabling" each other out here, and that term most always is proscribed to "addiction" issues based on my collateral duty as a "DAPA" in the USN.

Boy are we !!

From my last Post, Ref. 2 does state for the 3 KH-29 types they carried high explosive. So I'm thinking now based on rel19's last we're dealing with different payloads within the "KH" (And maybe others?) family of missiles possibly dependent on the "era" the missile was used and maybe it's "sub-variants" like noted in the AUSA site for the KH-25 series.

And if Andy found something else, that can't be good either. So...
Another %@!* "Rabbit Hole" AGAIN!

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Default Re: Problems with the current Russian OOB (#11).

Yes, Kh-23, Kh-25, Kh-29 are three different familes of missiles with different warheads. Kh-25 has splinter high explosive warhead and laser guidance. It has substituted Kh-23 missile which had radio command guidance. Kh-29 is large and heavy munition against protected objects with television (Kh-29T) or laser (Kh-29L) guidanse. There is an article about Kh-29 on the same site:
http://авиару.рф/aviamuseum/...a-raketa-h-29/

Reading the last paragraph of the first section:
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Боевая часть ракеты — бронебойно-фугасная, массой 317 кг, что составляет половину от стартовой массы ракеты. Она представляет собой массивный стакан из твёрдых сортов стали, заполненный высокобризантным взрывчатым веществом. Масса ВВ при этом составляет 116 кг. Сочетание скорости, более чем вдвое превышающей скорость звука, и очень тяжёлой и прочной боевой части обеспечивает боеголовке высокую проникающую способность. Это позволяет эффективно разрушать высокозащищённые объекты, такие как бетонные сооружения или надводные корабли. Перед детонацией боевой нагрузки ракета способна пробить порядка 1 м бетона, укрытого 3 метрами грунта. При атаке железобетонных взлётно-посадочных полос ракета оставляет воронку диаметром 12-15 и глубиной около 6 метров, что надолго выводит их из строя.
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"Missile warhead is armor-piercing high explosive weighting 317 kg which is half the starting mass of the missile. It is a massive body of hard grade of steel filled with high brisance explosive where the mass of explosive is 116 kg. The combination of speed which is more than twice the sound speed and very heavy and lasting warhead provides high penetrating ability. This allows effectively destroy high protected objects such as concrete constructions and surface ships. Before detonation of the action load the missile is able to break through about 1 meters of concrete covered with 3 meters of soil. In attack of reinforced concrete runway strips the missile gives a crater with a diameter of 12-15 meters and about 6 meters deep."

On provided figure (the seventh in the article) we can find:
label 6 – protivorikoshetnoe ustroystvo – anti-ricochet device;
label 8 – pronikayuchshaya oskolochno-fugasnaya BCh 9B63MN – penetrating splinter high explosive warhead 9B63MN.
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