Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

[troopie]

Suggestion: We are constantly hearing what this or that organisation is GOING to do. Let us wait until they actually DO it.

troopie

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

If referring to the F/A-18E/F that's already and has been ongoing.

If referring to the F-35 series, than yes that's currently "premature" but in the game. So now what do we do? That's not my final decision, all I can do is point it out.

It's not limited to this topic, as Don pointed when I found issue with the LEOPARD 2A5 (German OOB.) I believe he indicated that error (They got them to soon in in the OOB, as compared to RL. Fixed for the next patch.) was in there for a very longtime.

Again I've found legacy issues, prototypes (AJAX/F-35) and programs go by the wayside (SADF BADGER which now I don't even see actually being produced now before 2025 due to industry incompetence and corruption.

Some of the above was due to our lack of oversight or at the time all the sources we had pretty much indicated said piece of equipment "was on the way" or written "that it's there."

It took me a couple of years to learn I needed to "deep read" my information and learn to speck "industry" language as they "tout" every step in the process as a victory to getting said piece of equipment into the field.

This has lead to so much rework in the OOB's, it's getting to the point of becoming ridiculous if not just plain frustrating.

All we can do is fix the issues as we find them. Anything less leaves us with a game not as good as it could be or should be for ALL the hard work that's been done by Andy, Don and everyone else that's contributed to the game.

I would last see the following alive during the 25th Anniversary of the commissioning of the USS NEBRASKA SSBN-739 Reunion 3 years ago, knowing that CINCLANTHOME and I saved the Reunion and made it happen, CAPT. Will Porter USN/SS Ret. (My last CO on there.) told us "I'm glad to see after all these years since you transferred off the boat, that somethings haven't changed, you're still the conscious of the crew and the boat."

We miss him.

And yes, "somethings haven't changed" and there's only one way it will.

You have your name and your character anything else is "fleeting" and will not stand the test of time.

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

It's not limited to this topic, as Don pointed when I found issue with the LEOPARD 2A5 (German OOB.) I believe he indicated that error (They got them to soon in in the OOB, as compared to RL. Fixed for the next patch.) was in there for a very longtime.

IDK if they are or not. I sent you the current OOB to use as a guide for any changes and I have not had any feedback.

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by troopie

Suggestion: We are constantly hearing what this or that organisation is GOING to do. Let us wait until they actually DO it.

troopie

Part of the problem has always been WinSMPBTs end date is in the future.

So we're constantly looking at what's planned then later what's actually implemented.

[Karagin]

Originally Posted by Suhiir

Part of the problem has always been WinSMPBTs end date is in the future.

So we're constantly looking at what's planned then later what's actually implemented.

Have the end date set in the future show be a good thing since it allows things to change, as we are talking about with the fighters and who is buying what etc...to me if one branch is no longer using X for something then to me that should be reflected in the OOBs. Now with USMC, sure they could still call on Navy F18s but that might not be doctrine and that is where we seem to gloss over or so to me it seems, country X stops using a doctrine and that means certain vehicles, fighters, weapons are no longer used in the same manner, so IMO, the stop date is a reflection of that. Can a LAWs rocket stop a current front-line MBT? Sure, engine hit or track/road wheels taken out or that lucky hit that just happens. Is it standard practice to use a LAWs rocket to take on a T80 or M1? No, however, it can be done, but no one is using that weapon system anymore to do it, with the very few exceptions of terrorist or low-end rebels.

Might not be the best example but the point is if doctrines change then certain things won't be available to a country after a certain date.

[blazejos]

Poland plan to buy 32 F-35A in years 2024-2026 pilots oficially starts training in USA.

https://translate.google.com/transla...ja-sie-na-f-35