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August 23rd, 2002, 08:03 PM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
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Originally posted by spoon:
I have a few questions about the mechanics...
- How do we know when a player has no planets (unless we play on View All Scores, perhaps)
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Unless he gets killed off before you meet him, you will know he lost his Last planet because you will get the "lost contact with player X" log message.
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- How do we know a player has been cut off? (ie, will the administrator know somehow, or is it up to a player to tell him?)
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same as above. You will get a "lost contact" message.
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And a few things you might want to clarify, so there are no hard feeling later in the game:
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Dumbluck, as I said I really don't think it is likely to come up, but if it does I am going to come down hard on the player doing the closing, not the one being closed off. That's not a valid method for eliminating someone in my book.
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- this statement makes me think you should either ban Stellar Manip, or state the rule explicitly. What if one player accidentally closes off another? (likelihood near zero, but you never know) Ok, I will think abou tthis one and make a decision before we start. I don't want any abiguity if we can avoid it.
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On player Communications:
- Is it ok to send email to a player you haven't met in the current round. Most players (myself included) follow this guideline, but since this format is a bit different, you might want to make a house rule...
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Normally I don't allow it, but for the purposes of this tournament, I'll allow it. In fact I am looking forward to seeing people do this. I think it will add to the cutthroat nature of the tourney. You can think your making a deal with someone, and he's got deals with someone else too and planning on backstabing you. See other thread on the subject.
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- Is it ok to make a deal with another empire that extends into future rounds (for example, can I beg Askan not to kill me in the current round, in exchange for my promise not to attack him for the next three rounds...)
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This is allright with me. What would NOT be ok is if you said, "Askan, don't kill me now, and in a later round I'll lay down when you are about to get eliminated." Promising to assist each other is good and ok. Promising to take a dive so another can move on is bad and not ok.
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August 23rd, 2002, 10:04 PM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
If I were about to eliminate Empire A, say, in 4 or 5 turns, but someone esle is about to eliminate Empire B before I can get to Empire A's Last holdings, can I gift a few planets to Empire B solely for the purpose of keeping them around so that I could instead have Empire A elminated?
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August 23rd, 2002, 10:06 PM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
If I were about to eliminate Empire A, say, in 4 or 5 turns, but someone esle is about to eliminate Empire B before I can get to Empire A's Last holdings, can I gift a few planets to Empire B solely for the purpose of keeping them around so that I could instead have Empire A elminated?
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Why sure you can. But you can also expect that sort of tactic not to sit well with everybody. So be prepared to deal with the "consequences" of your actions in later rounds.
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August 23rd, 2002, 10:24 PM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
They have no way of knowing if I did that. For all they know, Empire B colonized planets in far-off locations without their knowledge. 
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August 23rd, 2002, 10:37 PM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
This is true, but keep in mind that Empire A's friends can do the same.
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August 24th, 2002, 03:09 AM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
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-Spoon (Spoo to the Nth power?)
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An excellent question.
Well you know what they say, "no spoos is bad spoos..." 
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August 24th, 2002, 04:37 AM
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Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Dumbluck, as I said I really don't think it is likely to come up, but if it does I am going to come down hard on the player doing the closing, not the one being closed off. That's not a valid method for eliminating someone in my book.
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Seems its my day to disagree with Geo.
I think this is a perfectly legitimate tactic. If anyone can afford the resources to close down the necessary 23 warp points in my gargantuan empire, they are welcome to try. But I would be utterly astounded if the game went on long enough for any one to try this tactic. If you are so rich and powerful you can afford to build these closers, how did you manage to NOT eliminate anyone?
Instead I would suggest that when, say, 6 or fewer players are left, the lost contact rule should no longer apply.
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