Poland OOB

DRG · #1 February 1st, 2022, 11:57 AM

Save yourself the time and trouble of making LBM's. There is no easy way to say how unusable they are for the most part

Pibwl · #2 February 3rd, 2022, 02:52 PM

To end with Poland, misc comments:

AFV:

402 T-72M1 - it's pretty lame "modernization", but from late 2019 (say 1/20) there are introduced modified T-72M1R with TI vision. Sadly, fire control and all the rest are the same. (I'm leaving aside the gun, which in fact on all Polish T-72s should remain on late 1980s level..).

541 Wz.77 Dana - better name is just Dana. "Wz.77" alone doesn't make much sense (it is: "armatohaubica wz. 1977" - "gun-howitzer 1977 pattern"), but this official designation is rarely used.
In last years they were modernized to Dana-T, fitted to modern artillery command and control (C3ISTAR) system Topaz, but I'm not sure if it has any impact on single unit's stats.

578 BRDM-2 Szakal - armour should be the same as basic version - only difference was armament, sand camouflage and air conditioning for Iraqi mission...
It might have better survivability, than ordinary BRDM-2 [3], because it has auxiliary wheels removed and side doors added (the same for units 570-572, 576-577)

610 Osa-AKM-P1 - I don't know if it matters in case of SP-SAM, but it also has laser RF

202 ZSU-23-MP Biala - it was rare vehicle at first - only one prototype was used in the army from 2005 [1/05], next two were modified in mid-2006, 3 in 2007... I'm afraid a significant number appeared around 2010 or later.

Guns

91,92 122mm Field Gun - of course it is pure Field Howitzer

174 122mm Gun Sec - photo is not used in Poland post-war cannon. Poland used only wartime A-19 (later modified with pneumatic wheels). There is original A-19 photo 41091 (Finnish).

204, 206 98mm Mortar - delivered only in a course of 2004 (say, 10/04) (now 10/03)

551 85mm AT-gun - photo is 100mm gun, should be 29428

564 S-125 Newa-SC,
669 SA-3 Neva SC - names should be unified. I can't verify dates at the moment, but according to one article from 1996, the first one should rather be S-125 Newa-S (self-propelled), and only the second one S-125 Newa-SC ("cyfrowy" = digital).

For a sake of consistency, 048 S-125 Neva and 041 S-125 Neva M might be renamed Polish name "Newa" and "Newa-M".

I haven't browsed all units, but that's more than enough...