Ukraine 2021(?)

[DRG]

The problem with these things from the firers POV is the smoke trace that points to exactly where it was fired from.

That may not be true for all types but it certainly was for what was used there

[wulfir]

Originally Posted by DRG

The problem with these things from the firers POV is the smoke trace that points to exactly where it was fired from.

That may not be true for all types but it certainly was for what was used there

I saw one claim that two types were used, the first firing being blacker smoke which is to have missed and the one with whiter smoke being a Rb 57 as it produces two puffs of smoke (a function which supposedly makes it possible to fire from confined spaces).

Here's a slowed down video with the stills edited out. Looks like one of the tanks returning fire takes a direct front hit from another inf-AT weapon (at about 00:51).

https://twitter.com/theRightMikke/st...d6QHF13SaoROPg

Also saw a claims that the Russian unit was identified as a Battalion Tactical Group of the 6th Tank Regiment (90th Guards Tank Division) which is later to have continued advancing down the road towards the village of SKYBYN and there running into Ukrainian T-64 tanks, been subject to Ukrainian artillery after which the Russians turned around and retreated. Supposedly the defending units were from the UA 72nd Mech Brigade. Russian tanks claimed to be T-72As. The commander of the Russian 6th Tank Regiment is to have been killed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Danspiun/...01295225495557

Seems like a decent scenario right there. Only, the game AI will probably do a better job at fighting than the actual Russian army...

[DRG]

Originally Posted by wulfir

Seems like a decent scenario right there. Only, the game AI will probably do a better job at fighting than the actual Russian army...

If you build it I will include it

[wulfir]

Originally Posted by DRG

If you build it I will include it

Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

[DRG]

Originally Posted by wulfir

Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

Right now it's 443....

[MarkSheppard]

Regarding the use of Ukrainian OOB Units:

061: T-84 Oplot
063: T-84 Oplot+
064: T-84 Oplot-M (aka BM Oplot)

In scenarios....

Wikipedia (i know, I know) says that ten T-84 Oplot were completed; while Laser Shark on Tanknet (https://www.tanknet.org/index.php?/t...omment=1583276) pointed out that at least three Oplot-BM were completed, being assigned as such:

1 x to USA for OPFOR
1 x for International Arms Expo Shows
1 x to Ukrainian Army.

Not sure if or where they're going to show up, though, but I suppose it would make sense to group them together with the other T-84s in a single company, and then attach it to some tank battalion.

I checked Ukrainian Wikipedia and found these two articles:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2...BE%D1%82%C2%BB
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91...BE%D1%82%C2%BB

Basically, Laser Shark was right:

Ukranian Wikipedia says:

The T-84 company took part in the military parade in 2003.

And this Ukrainian Site (https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2018/09/melnyk.html)

says

"Now these machines have been transferred to the 169th Desna Training Center to continue the cycle of operation, where everything possible will be squeezed out of them. The main end result, namely - a serviceable, reliable machine that will meet all the requirements of our tankers."

(169-й навчальний центр «Десна»)

I looked it up:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/169-%D...BD%D0%B0%C2%BB

The 169th Desna Training Center named after Prince Yaroslav the Wise ( 169 NC , unit A0665) is a military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine specializing in the training of personnel for various branches of the Land Forces of Ukraine . It reports directly to the command of the ground forces. Located in the village of Desna, Chernihiv region .

If you look up Desna's location on a map... it's just north of Kiev, right along the line of the eastern pincer.

So it looks like the lone T-84 Oplot Company in Ukraine has probably already seen combat (and been wiped out) in fighting against the Eastern Pincer against Kiev.