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Old May 30th, 2022, 02:22 AM
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Fallout Re: SP and SPAA Developments

In this ever-changing situation sources are now confirming that 6 (Another 6 to follow.) French CAESER 6x6 (With "BONUS" rounds and 18 Polish KRABs (3 Ukrainian batteries.) are in the fight. One of the articles pointed out 100 artillery men have been in Poland for some time to get trained on them and their accompanied ammo resupply units (This is true for ALL foreign "donated" artillery. These SPA units are auto fed.)
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...edia-3109.html
https://www.rt.com/news/556304-polan...tzers-ukraine/
https://thenewsglory.com/poland-deli...rs-to-ukraine/

Now to the CAESAR first from an earlier discussion on shoot-n-scoot ...
"But for quick shoot-and-scoot fires, a CAESAR crew can begin firing 60 seconds after arriving on position and decamp within 40 seconds. That means a CAESAR unit can begin rolling away less than three minutes after deploying, well before a counterbattery riposte can land."
https://sofrep.com/news/french-firep...nt-to-ukraine/
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/...ne-in-ukraine/
https://news.yahoo.com/armed-forces-...121346214.html


Some are suggesting they have also received the Italian modified M109L.

This is not true at this time, however they will get them in the not-too-distant future. This is a unique version in that it doesn't have the existing 23 caliber barrel but was modified with a 39 caliber barrel instead.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...tillery-system
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3729.html
https://www.blindbatnews.com/2022/03...d-beyond/87206


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Fallout Re: SP and SPAA Developments

Well, POTUS has decided NOT to send HIMARS/or MRLS to the Ukraine for fears they'll be used to target units inside Russian territory. As announced today.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=3ff1413a3711
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-seeks...143118661.html
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/edit...tpost&p=852698
https://www.republicworld.com/world-...ticleshow.html


There are a couple of options they can send them with the shorter-range rockets and still accomplish the mission for the Ukraine. Next, we can send them M109A5/A6 which can do the same easily as well.

Why? because those options above and with the recently received SPA systems and those that "are on the way, have all one thing in common they'll for the most part out range anything in the field Russia is using.

Obviously, I'm NOT talking about the
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/smerch.htm
http://www.military-today.com/artill..._2t_smerch.htm


Which are known to be operating on the Russian border. There are other Russian units NOT YET FIEIDED that will have similar or slightly better ranges then the systems above.

The TORNADO-G has a new rocket in development that'll supposedly reach out to 90km-100km. These (AND THOSE ABOVE.) are ideal for where the battle is now focused on the Eastern part of Ukraine.

There is however a couple of quantifiers dealing with their rocket supply. At the rate they're using them their stocks are running low quickly. Also, if true, the munitions plant that made the rocket propellants was "mysteriously" blown up a couple of months back. The plant was located about 400 miles East of Moscow in the Ural Mountains.
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/tornado_g.htm


The supply issue is reported by U.S./UK and other Defense sources. The plant not so sure without more information.

To my last post the fastest known SPA system is the ARCHER with prep to fire in 30s interval between fires is at or less than 30s so it can fire 2 rounds and "shoot-n-scoot" in ~<2 minutes!
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/archer.htm
(It was one of my earliest submissions I believe in this thread before changing formats.)


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