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Old October 22nd, 2022, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: German Company Level Kampfgruppe?

From what I gather from my reading, they liked to put together a batallion of each main type to make a 2 batallion battle group (tank + infantry) and then basically manouvre as double teams (a tank co + inf co working together, with the individual platoons then also "married up" in supporting pairs).

Not so much of the post-war NATO type of a tank bn swapping out a coy for a mech coy from a panzergrenadier bn and so on. They seemed to like to keep the batallions unsplit as whole items. Though of course they might lend a tank coy to a rifle bn, which would then split that to individual platoons in direct support of rifle coys but really that was the stugs and panzerjaeger's (ie artillery branch units, not panzers) task/mode of operations. The germans seemed to prefer thier armour coys (and bns as well) to be left concentrated as whole formations, not penny-packeted out except in cases of extreme need.

So thier battle groups seem to have been more what the French would have called a "demi-brigade" - ie made up of 2 bns of the brigade/regiment acting in concert + added brigade/regimental level assets if needed (engineers, recce, arty, AAA etc) as a "top-up".
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Default Re: German Company Level Kampfgruppe?

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So thier battle groups seem to have been more what the French would have called a "demi-brigade" - ie made up of 2 bns of the brigade/regiment acting in concert + added brigade/regimental level assets if needed (engineers, recce, arty, AAA etc) as a "top-up".
Thank you so much, I knew someone here would know!

I'm making a few small organizational changes in a company+ unit for the Long Campaign, which I've never managed to grind through. Divorce and Retirement has opened up a chunk of time, so I'm going to see if I can pull it off.

Since I feel overwhelmed with the map covered in unit counters, I'm going with a slightly modified cold war soviet Advance Party OB, ie reinforced Motorized Rifle Company + Tank Platoon + odds and ends starting out with 1939 era German gear. As far as I know, not authentic, but realistic. This will give me something similar to the NATO era Team Yankee OB, which I'm also going to try out over in winSPMBT. Both OBs give me the smaller troop set I want and a wide span of capabilities.

I actually have adequate references for the 1970-80s Soviets, but there just don't seem any good sources, that I've found, that really cover tactics for German, or really anyone, down around the company level. Kennedy's On Infantry, 1st Ed is about the only thing. If I recall correctly, On Armour is back into abstractions and no lower-level information.
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