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Old October 27th, 2022, 03:48 AM
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With all due respect, I actually feel the K2PL armor levels will fall somewhere either at the level of the current K1A1/K1A2 (With the K1A2 electronic system upgrades.) or at best between both the K1A1/K1A2 and K2.

Though we are not dealing with DU Armor issues here, we are certainly dealing with classified industrial secrets related in how the armor "came about" (R&D) and manufactured etc. etc.

I've already covered this ground which facilitated us to develop a plausible model for foreign sales M1A2C (SEP 3) tanks as entered in the game with the last patch.

S. Korea is well aware of the "courtship" between China and Russia and both are aligned with N. Korea. The last thing S. Korea wants to see is their version of the K2 being towed, transported or driven off a European battlefield that they have no interest in fighting at themselves.

Also, the same goes for the KASTAM munition which was never mentioned as part of this tank deal.

I have read articles to further this point, quoting U.S. ARMY officers that have no firm data concerning the TYPE 10 tank from Japan about its armor and latest ammo.

Foreign sale tanks come with options that we along with any major tank producing countries offer to foreign countries from armor, electronics etc. etc.

We did the same several years ago when the Ukraine developed the OPLOT-M (T) for Thailand.

Take a look for yourselves, we put together a very capable foreign sales M1A2C that can compete with anything out there.

It's just not an American M1A2C for all the reasons stated above and more not mentioned.

And to clarify and as I have already stated elsewhere, I absolutely can see if the Ukraine should ever get those LEOPARD 2A5 tanks, game wise, they should be the latest version they (Germany) had in service before they retired them.

I hope you see the difference in this last versus the above for a countries most advanced fielded tank.

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Though we are not dealing with DU Armor issues here
I have heard (can't remember where) that DU is no longer part of the secret sauce on the latest and greatest M1A2 [whatever we call it now] package for US forces.
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Though we are not dealing with DU Armor issues here
I have heard (can't remember where) that DU is no longer part of the secret sauce on the latest and greatest M1A2 [whatever we call it now] package for US forces.
Doubtful.
Simply because of the chemical/physical properties of DU. There's nothing to replace it with. And downgrading the armor protection on the A2v3 seems VERY unlikely.
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