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Old January 9th, 2001, 05:47 PM

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Ah.. and that colony ship bug with minefields still exists after the patch 1.19.
Send a colonyship into enemy minefield and it will suck all mines from that sector with only the colony component staying intact.
Possible and easy solution to this is to change the colony components Tonnage Structure value from 200-->50. I have tested this and the problem is gone now.



Hm. I've never had that problem. Of course, I always research explosive warheads 3 before I do mines. Mine Warhead IIIs do 200-300 damage, IIRC, so they probably wipe out that colony module quite easily.
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Old January 9th, 2001, 06:27 PM

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Making a colony component only take up 50kt of space is not a good idea. It's much better to set its damage resistance to 50kt and leave it taking up 200kt on the design. Otherwise you can just use an escort hull as a colony ship with +1 engine.

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Old January 9th, 2001, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: AI+Minefield/AI+Black Hole=Disaster (longish)

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Making a colony component only take up 50kt of space is not a good idea. It's much better to set its damage resistance to 50kt and leave it taking up 200kt on the design. Otherwise you can just use an escort hull as a colony ship with +1 engine.




And it would require to put more than one colony component in colony ship hull (it has to have at least 50% of space filled with colony components).
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Old January 9th, 2001, 07:25 PM

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Mines are too powerful because they are invisible. A ship has to decloak to fire it's weapon. Mines should have to do the same. Or make them visible. If they are visible you would have to combine them with ships at ambush points(WP's) to be of use.
The mines should have a short range and would hamper the enemies manuvering while you could be firing seekers from all directions. Of course this would bad for mine lovers,but would be easier on the A.I.
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Old January 9th, 2001, 08:43 PM

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Default Re: AI+Minefield/AI+Black Hole=Disaster (longish)

I did not intend to change the amount of space the colony module takes. I only changed the amount of damage it can take.
There are two lines in components.txt file:

Tonnage Space Taken := 200
Tonnage Structure := 50 (was 200)

Now you have a colony module that still takes
200kt of space but can only take 50kt of damage...
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Old January 9th, 2001, 09:09 PM

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In my games, I turn off the Mines technology, and I've modded the SystemTypes file so that unstable warp points no longer exist. I still get black-hole systems, but all their warp points are normal. Just two of the many steps I've taken to hide as many weaknesses of the SE4 AI as possible.
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Old January 10th, 2001, 01:05 AM

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Gryphon, anything else you do?
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