Scenario 37

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

Its an early one by Ulf......maybe he has some ideas about this little mystery

I'll send him a note.

My #1 concern is it may ... may ... have something to do with the map itself as I assume (note assume) that was translated (somehow) as well not created new using the WinSPMBT map creator/editor. If this is the case ... ???????

[wulfir]

Originally Posted by DRG

Its an early one by Ulf......maybe he has some ideas about this little mystery

It's one of the first one's I've ever made, so it's old - no doubt it could use a face lift. The map is too large, should maybe be reworked.

I don't remember editing any NKPA snipers to go surfing...

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by wulfir

It's one of the first one's I've ever made, so it's old - no doubt it could use a face lift. The map is too large, should maybe be reworked.

So no objections to me revising the scenario?

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by wulfir

It's one of the first one's I've ever made

I assume you just converted the existing scenario to WinSPMBT?

There were well over twice as many North Koreans as were actually present during the battle.

[DRG]

Oops. I didn't change the size and it took what I had set and used that

I will redo

[DRG]

Corrected map. This should remove any weirdness that might have crept into the original after all the game updates

[Suhiir]

Speaking of the map ...

I know you can use the map editor to add shell craters.
Is there a way to change the tree/forest hexes to burnt down/blown to hell forest?

P.S.
A preparatory bombardment by 4 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, 9 destroyers, several squadrons of various types of aircraft over the course of 5 days; and then over 3,000 4.5in rockets just before the landings creates a rather impressive moonscape.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Suhiir

Speaking of the map ...

I know you can use the map editor to add shell craters.
Is there a way to change the tree/forest hexes to burnt down/blown to hell forest?

Short answer is no. You could selectively add winter trees, there are plenty of bare ones but it's tedious but it will do in a pinch.

I have seen burnt tree Icons in the code files we got but they are leftovers from early SSI development that were never used and I am not sure where they are. They were never used because the time span SP covers means burning trees never stop burning

EDIT

"Mystery" solved. They were an unused portion of the original SP2 tree SHP files for all types that were never used in the game that were removed from the file when I expanded the tree variety YEARS ago

All sets had burnt trees but were never put into the code for use. That example is the original SSI summer tree set TER09... but that's not how TER09 looks like in SPWW2/MBT now. Now the base tree set has been expanded considerably ( and the burnt ones removed because there was no reason to keep them )

Originally Posted by Suhiir

P.S.
A preparatory bombardment by 4 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, 9 destroyers, several squadrons of various types of aircraft over the course of 5 days; and then over 3,000 4.5in rockets just before the landings creates a rather impressive moonscape.

You could add damage with 255 flood fill but its better to put damage like that in small chunks otherwise the map contours are obscured. Re pre-bombardment It's the Napalm that was dropped that the South Koreans remember the most and it's still an issue with them

[Suhiir]

Winter trees work!
Thanks.

[zovs66]

I use winter, spring and autumn trees interchangeable with summer trees all the time in all my scenarios where needed and required. I have over 800 examples in both games.