The USMC will drive you crazy !!! - Page 6

DRG · #51 December 20th, 2023, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Suhiir

But until they settle on and officially announce this there's no point implementing this in WinSPMBT.

None at all, it's a total waste of time to try . Wait until it's fully implemented then make changes.

Suhiir · #52 December 21st, 2023, 04:58 PM

As a side note the new "Force 2030" is essentially a re-implementation of the WW 2 "Defense Battalions" (on more of a reinforced company scale). And since anti-ship missiles and refuel/rearming F-35Bs ON THE BATTLEFIELD are not implemented in WinSPMBT I can't see any reason to create the significant number of units/formations needed to include an ISLAND DEFENSE ONLY force which will be implemented in only one of the four USMC divisions (3rd, an not even 100% of it) and a couple(?) independent formations (Hawaii, Guam, ?).

If some scenario designer really wants to create a battle involving one that's what the editing tools in the game are for.

DRG · #53 December 22nd, 2023, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Suhiir

I can't see any reason to create the significant number of units/formations needed to include an ISLAND DEFENSE ONLY force which will be implemented in only one of the four USMC divisions (3rd, an not even 100% of it) and a couple(?) independent formations (Hawaii, Guam, ?).

If some scenario designer really wants to create a battle involving one that's what the editing tools in the game are for.

That is exactly what the editing tools are for

cbreedon · #54 January 20th, 2024, 12:59 PM

Just noticed that the MARSOC/Raider change that happened in 2015 only changed for the units. The formations are still called MARSOC. Formations involved are 645 and 646. The units are 720-723

Suhiir · #55 January 20th, 2024, 07:49 PM

Raiders ARE MARSOC.

Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC) can and does include a diverse assortment of specialties but the primary "Boots on the Ground" element (and largest percentage of warm bodies) is Raiders. Think of them as a cross between US Army Rangers and US Navy SEALs.

The "formation" is still called/known as MARSOC, most of those in it are Raiders.

Suhiir · #56 January 21st, 2024, 05:33 AM

Followup to the above question about Raiders.

I just stumbled across this (it was only put on YouTube a few hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cud8KgKxueQ

Above I said a cross between US Army Rangers and US Navy SEALs.
Guess I should have said US Army Green Berets and US Navy SEALs.

BUT they're NOT as specialized as either. They're less super secret covert action and more deep penetration intelligence gathering and direct action.