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Old February 4th, 2025, 02:50 PM

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Default Re: SP, MLRS and SPAA Developments

Artillery range annomalies.

As I understand, range 10 km = 200, and a surplus is added to 200 (eg. 2S1 Gvozdika: 15 km = 205, 2S19 Msta: 29 km = 219, M109A1: 23.5 km RAP = 214, M109A6: 30 km RAP = 220)

Krab: 40 km = should be 230
(Polish oob weapon #207 155mm L/52 and Ukrainian #115 oob is only 220)

K9: 41 km = should be 231
(S.Korean oob #124 155/52 FH is only 220; same for Finland #141 and probably whoever uses it)
(BTW: name of Korean unit 045 K-9 should be K9, for a consistency, and usually written this way)

PzH 2000: at least 40 km = 230 (or 54 km w/RAP = 244)
(German #112 155mm FH155-1 is only 215 - but it shares weapon with L/36 FH155-1, which has range only 30.1 km w/RAP according to German Wikipedia - which should be 221 anyway)
Same for Ukrainian #112, Hungarian #113, Greek #93 (used only by PzH2000), Netherlands #112 (shared with FH-70 and M-109).
Italian #144 is correct.

M109A1 + in British OOB: weapon #110 155mm M198 GH is 220, while it should be max 214 with RAP (23.5 km) (if they use RAP).

AS90 in Ukrainian OOB: weapon #141 has range 220, while it should be 24.7 km = 215. It shares weapon with FH-70, which should have the same range 24.7km actually (30.1 km only w/RAP)
In British OOB AS90 has correct range 215.
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Old February 4th, 2025, 03:26 PM

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Russia

345 2S35 Koalitsiya - surely it's not used since 8/18, and it should have radio x3 as for now. Its real operational status and number is unknown, and the Russians didn't boast of its eventual service on Ukrainian front.
Reportedly in 6/20 eight howitzers were handed to experimental military operation. According to Russian Wikipedia [url]https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%A135[/url,] in 8/23 a factory director reported, that the production had started, and state trials would be completed by end of 2023.
Finally, on 5 January 2024(!) TASS agency informed, that Russian army received first Koalitsya-SV https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/19677215

Ordinary range is given on Russian Wikipedia as 40 km, and 70 km only with a corrected ammo. This is BTW another case of GPS/Glonass corrected ammo, but I don't know what is its status. The Russians of course brag as usual, that Koalitsya with its range of 70 or 80 km "has no analogues in the world", but I'd guess, that a long-range precise ammo would be a rarity (provided that it reached production status...).

854 2S43 Malva - now used from 12/22. According to Russian Wikipedia https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%A143, with a given source, on 26 October 2023 first series vehicles were given to the army. It gives range only 24.5 km = 215, or 40 km with RAP according to https://iz.ru/1595380/2023-10-26/voe...stanovki-malva while now it has a super cannon of Koalitsya with 255 range (it basically has the same 2A88 cannon).

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