Best Scifi Series ever, canceled! (OT)

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
Japan and Korea would be great markets for a CGi SE4 series.

Why? and Why only the Far East?

Europe and Australia, also Canada will probably take it up a lot. America and others... It's a maybe.

Edit: Simone used a Canadian model.

[ September 10, 2002, 03:25: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[raynor]

I just watched a season one episode of ST:TNG called The Neutral Zone where they rescue some crionically frozen folks from the 20th Century. Picard strongly emphasizes how people in the 24th century don't pursue material possessions anymore.

Bagh!! I'm a big fan of Star Trek. But this philosophy that everyone is going to spend all their time in the future trying to better themselves is just a bit too much to stomach.

I really like Babylon 5. It seems a much more realistic look at the future. Everything is pretty much the same as it is now but the technology is a little improved.

I think B5 should rate as the best sci-fi show simply because of the consistent plot throughout the entire series.

Farscape? Isn't that muppets in space?

The Prisoner was an interesting show. I think it might be interesting to see a modern Version of that.

[dogscoff]

I think B5 should rate as the best sci-fi show simply because of the consistent plot throughout the entire series.

Agreed. And also (as you suggested) becasue it is such a realistic vision of the future. Neither dystopian nor utopian.

Farscape? Isn't that muppets in space?

No, but Muppets in Space was a damn fine film. In fact, I'd have to say it was the best Sci-fi film/ show EVER, because everything else sucks and what I like is best.

Sorry

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by raynor:
I just watched a season one episode of ST:TNG called The Neutral Zone where they rescue some crionically frozen folks from the 20th Century. Picard strongly emphasizes how people in the 24th century don't pursue material possessions anymore.

Bagh!! I'm a big fan of Star Trek. But this philosophy that everyone is going to spend all their time in the future trying to better themselves is just a bit too much to stomach.

That was Roddenberry's vision of the future. It does tend to make Trek a little preachey at times. You almost find yourself rooting for the bad guys just because they are so much more interesting.

I hate to say it, and wouldn't dare to say it at a Trek converntion , but I think TNG got better after Gene died. DS9 was definetly better. I even liked Voyager, although that gets a lot of scorn from most people, though I am not exactly sure why.

What I have seen of B5 I liked. It's one of my regrets that I never got to watch it from the begining. In my town it always was getting bumped around to different times, and sometimesz different channels in the early seasons. By the time it settled down and was always on one channel at one time I had missed so much of the storyline that I felt lost.

Maybe somebody will rebroadcast it from the begining some day, or I'll get rich and buy the DVD's.

Geoschmo

[Nodachi]

The reason I love Farscape is that the show is about the characters, not the trappings around them (although Moya does count as a character to me). The show's "don't sweat the details" approach to high-tech is a vast departure from modern scifi, and it worked. The character interaction is what made people fans of the show. Too many scifi shows focus on the gadgets and whatnots. Whenever the Ratings started to slip these shows would have to one-up themselves to pull their audience back in- "Captain our Ratings are dropping! Quick, blow up the ship so we can get a new one!"

Oh well, enough rambling. Suffice to say I'm sadded by the loss of my friends on Moya.

[Growltigga]

Hmmm.. speculation aside, I consider that it is interesting to see how people reacted to the various Trek derivatives. I think it is fair to say that DS9 was well received, and those of us who like classic space-opera-esque plot lines with massive battles etc probably found that to be the best one. VOY appears to be universally recognised as the weakest link.

Enterprise has only been on for about 6 weeks over here in the UK but I think the general perception is that it is good. I personally do like the show but do not see how it fits in with any of the "established" history. I mean, IIRC, the first romulan wars were fought with lasers and nuclear missile 'blind' between Earth and the Romulans, neither side knew what the other looked like. Also, wasn't Sol system meant to be attacked 4 times by the Kzinti pre-Federation days? and since when were the Vulcans a horrible bunch of nasty oiks scrapping with the Andorians?

My personal favourite is B5. Good earthy storylines with a bot of ahem, risque/violent overtones and a long running plot. Also, nice to see the humans being one of th weaker races in the galaxy and not a bunch of noble, altruistic heroes

I did like Space: ABAB if only cos it was on late Friday nights just as I got home from the pub. Did they only make 1 series of that? I remeber the Last episode had a peace treaty where Aerotech and the Chigs were going to be shown to have some connection but that is as far as I recall. Anyone clarify this?

[ September 10, 2002, 13:27: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Perrin]

Originally posted by Nodachi:
"Captain our Ratings are dropping! Quick, blow up the ship so we can get a new one!"

More like Quick bring back the Borg.

I believe that B5 was so good because it's plot was a set of designed events leading to end. The was no quest too seek out new seasons. In fact the only times that the plot suffered was when they were going to get canceled early and the creator excelerated the plot line. But then they got renewed so he had to try and slow it back down. In fact to make sure the series ended they scrapped the station in the final episode.

B5 Excalibur was going to be a great series (plenty of complex characters with room to grow) until Turner demanded that the creator sex it up more. The creator said no the series is fine. Turner said if you don't do what I say the series is canceled. The creator replied then I guess I'm cancelled. ( Screw you Turner you couldn't leave a good thing alone)

DS9 was really god too. They didn't have to resort to the Borg like TNG and Voyager (and Voyager had to resort to Busty Blonds in skin tight uniforms. ( Not that there is anything wrong with that )).

One of my favorite DS9 episodes was when Q shows up on the station.
Q: "You hit me! Picard never hit me!
Cisco: "I am NOT Picard!

Of course DS9 didn't get really good until Cisco Shaved his head and went back to his Hawk persona from Spencer for Hire.

[ September 10, 2002, 14:00: Message edited by: Perrin ]