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Old September 25th, 2002, 06:53 PM

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Default Re: OT: Space Empires and Seti@Home

Cool! Zenbudo and sven pushed us over the 20K mark w/ plenty of room to spare!!! However I don't think the page has completely updated its' calculations.

If anyone hasn't checked out Seti@Home, take a look. It is (as sachmo says) cool!!!

I personally have quite a few work units myself. In fact someone here on another thread suggested I was "heating my house" with it (with all the spare CPU's I have running the process).. Reguardless, most if not all that visit these forums probably have some interest in SETI......
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Old September 25th, 2002, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: OT: Space Empires and Seti@Home

I've seen the page now and I don't understand what they mean. What do they mean with 20000+ year cpu time? And what do you mean with plenty room to spare? Please explain.
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Old September 25th, 2002, 08:42 PM

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Default Re: OT: Space Empires and Seti@Home

It may be better for you to start out at the home page:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/index.html

Basically Seti@Home is an attempt at discovering ET by analysing radio frequencies across the sky (the web pages do a much better and more thorough job explaining it). Then, breaking up all that data into approx. 330K chunks and distributing a chunk to one of several million participating computers for analysis (1 chunk = 1 "Work Unit"). The remote computers do the analysis (Fast Fourier Transforms, etc.) to look for signs of ET, then return the results and recieve a new chunk for data crunching.

On the page I posted, "Results Recieved" is a count of completed Work Units (or chunks), "Total CPU Time" is (obviously) how long your computer(s) took to process thosw work units, and "Average" is pretty self-explainitory.

"Plenty of room to spare" is just that the group is actually well over 20K work units (not currently displayed but should be updated soon).
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Old September 26th, 2002, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: OT: Space Empires and Seti@Home

Just looked at the link at the start of the thread. who wrote this?

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Space Empires is a strategy game, similar to the board game Version of Risk.
Similar to Risk? Like a Space Shuttle is similar to a canoe...
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Old September 26th, 2002, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: OT: Space Empires and Seti@Home

Since Paul Dionne (MinervanEmpire) founded the group, it is safe to assume that he wrote that.
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Are you guys all running Quad Pentiums X's or what? I joined and my first unit took 44 hrs' to process!! I didn't think my 1Ghz PIII was that slooow! I want Imperator Fyron' or Thermodyne's computer.
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Default Re: OT: Space Empires and Seti@Home

No, you just need to learn the secrets of SETI@Home fanaticism.

First of all, what Version are you using? The Win95/98 screen saver? Set it to blank the screen after 0 minutes. No, not your screen saver timeout in the Windows settings. The blank screen setting in the actual SETI program. The pretty graphics use as much CPU as the actual calculations. By turning them off you'll save a lot of power. You'll probably more than double the speed at which you finish a work unit just by doing that. A 1 Ghz P III is actually fairly powerful. You could check the box to have it running all the time in the background, I think. I have an 800 Mhz Duron and it's no problem for me to have it running all the time.

Now after that you have to consider how you have configured your computer and what else is running on it. Sounds are cute, but use MUCH CPU time playing unless you've got a fancy sound subsystem with hardware buffering. It would be wise to turn sounds off. Lots of 'harmless' programs that load up and sit in memory waiting for you to do something are actually using a noticable portion of your CPU power. What have you got in your task bar? Think real hard about whether you need those things. Is it really that hard to just go to the menu or desktop icon to activate that program? Remove as many as possible.

There are some more obscure tweaks that will give you a tiny percentage more, like using lower color depth on your screen. But the best improvement will come from not using the screen saver Version at all. Get the Win NT Version, which DOES run in Win95/98, and use that instead. (Then color depth doesn't matter!) It's about 10 percent faster than the Screensaver even with the graphics turned off. I think you will find that everyone on the SE IV group has been using the NT Version for a long time now.

I suppose I should rejoin the group but I hate the competitiveness of it. It's supposed to be 'fun' and/or 'charity' in that you're donating spare computer power to a good non-profit cause, but it's become a huge competitve thing for so many people now. There are entire farms of computers in some people's basements dedicated to SETI and nothing else. Some 'gift of spare CPU time'... But at least they've got the largest accumulated computing project in history now. Just wait till SETI@HOME II starts up for the southern hemisphere...

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Talk about rescuing an old topic I finally got a computer that I don't turn off. It is cranking away at the SETI work units. I may even pass Imperator Fyron. No way to do it in post counts. There are just a few of us left still processing. Let's see what these new computers can do.
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