OT - RAM utilities -> XP sucks? -> ME is worse?

Askan Nightbringer · #1 October 22nd, 2002, 02:38 AM

Well as I run Visual Studio.Net I'm limitied to either one of two operating systems - XP or 2k.
Ran 2k since about 2000 (coincidece?...maybe not

) and I liked it except Warlords Battlecry patch 1 didn't work and the thing took forever to boot (although I only rebooted once every 2 months but it still pissed me off). XP boots lightning fast, you can turn all the annoying visual effects off to boost performance and its really stable.

I won't upgade to XP patch 1 yet thou, coz I don't like the "Microsoft reserves the right to screw with your machine and make things not work whenever the feel like it" clause. Yep, your computer will automatically patch itself (when connected to the net) and until I find a hacking too to turn it off then I'm not upgrading.

Askan

BTW - WinMe blows. At our office we've got so sick of it we've decided to say our software not longer supports it.

Will · #2 October 22nd, 2002, 06:26 AM

Hmm... for everyone who's saying that Win2000 is more stable than Win98SE... I don't really think so. I usually end up having the 2000 machines here hang (hang meaning I have to wait a few minutes for Ctrl-Alt-Del to let me log off) about once every two hours on average here. My Win98SE machine at home I would get a BSoD about once a week (and that was about 30 hours of use). The only thing that's really "stable" about 2000 is you can usually get away with logging off, and logging back in (USUALLY... I've had to cut the power a few times).

XP Pro, while I haven't used it for as much time as the others, I haven't crashed yet. And I've tried a few times

XP Home, I've managed to hang quite a few times for the short amount of time I was playing with it.

But, overall, I still prefer Win98SE. I don't know of any programs where you can run it on one of the newer OS, but not on 98SE. I know where most of the settings/customization is (I won't say all, because there's probably some obscure thing that I would never use that I don't know about), and it's easier to change settings than the other ones. After all, "user-friendly" implies methods to prevent "user stupidity", even if they really did mean to change that setting.

Captain Kwok · #3 October 22nd, 2002, 06:33 AM

I'm going to upgrade to WinXP when I get some extra money to spend on the computer. I don't buy a lot of criticism here because most haven't used it enough to make an accurate comparision to the programs they're familiar with. I don't anticipate any major problems when I switch.

Fyron - You can always change the desktop to look like previous windows editions...if that's you're only beef

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KirbyEF · #4 October 22nd, 2002, 06:36 AM

MS Windows XP EULA states that you have to renew EVERY TWO YEARS.

Here are a couple of links have the Windows XP EULA and that statement (even one for the UK)
http://www.cw360.com/bin/bladerunner?REQSESS=Jc28AN7 S&REQAUTH=0&2149REQEVENT=&CARTI=105872&CARTT=2&CCAT=2&CCHAN=19&CFLAV=1
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/licensing/programmes/open/
http://www.empower.gb.com/pdf_guides...ing%20work.pdf
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=Cache...2&hl=en&ie=UTF -8

But you get to buy it at a "discount".

Thanks, buy no thanks.

98SE or 2K is good enough for me... or there's always Linux....

Kirby

Phoenix-D · #5 October 22nd, 2002, 06:37 AM

"I don't buy a lot of criticism here because most haven't used it enough to make an accurate comparision to the programs they're familiar with."

Uh, they don't work and they did under 98. That's a fairly simple comparision.

An upgrade that breaks what you want to do with the computer isn't much of an upgrade..

Phoenix-D

Captain Kwok · #6 October 22nd, 2002, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"I don't buy a lot of criticism here because most haven't used it enough to make an accurate comparision to the programs they're familiar with."

Uh, they don't work and they did under 98. That's a fairly simple comparision. An upgrade that breaks what you want to do with the computer isn't much of an upgrade..

Phoenix-D

Woops...I should have been more clear...I meant OSs they are familiar with. I don't use lots of older or obscure programs, so I'm not concerned about that kind of stuff. I'm sure lots of crap didn't work with Win95 that did with Win3.1, things change.

DavidG · #7 October 23rd, 2002, 01:15 AM

My real beef with MS OS's is that if you want to run your software you have no choice but to get an MS OS. Now if MS had got to this lofty position by producing good quality software that the competition couldn't then fine. But they got there through ruthless (and I believe now proven illegal) practices.