Ships Orders

DavidG · #1 October 26th, 2002, 02:49 PM

The problem with the Capture ships was they did not move towards the enemy (unshielded). These ships had swashbucklers and their only 'weapon' They instead either milled around or moved away. The ram thing was the same although this happened to a friend in the game so it may have been incorrect orders. Fleets with Don't hurt me orders I have found never worked since Gold came out. The ships always revert back to thier class orders.

Suicide Junkie · #2 October 26th, 2002, 05:19 PM

Were you fighting a Psychic race, by any chance? Or perhaps a Cruiser or larger?

Psychic races get double the normal boarding defense, and swashbucklers are not very strong.

If you ship will not overcome the defenders, it won't attempt to board.

DavidG · #3 October 26th, 2002, 09:43 PM

Psychic No. The enemy was mostly Battle Cruisers though.

Taera · #4 October 26th, 2002, 10:02 PM

I once had been using ship capture strongly and used CRs armed with two shields sapper, double shield and the rest loaded with boarding parties. THey just sapped the shields and ran to the corner, only to die there. The enemy was not psychic and did not have any boarding defense.
Same with ramming - tried putting weapons on them, and they dont ram but dance around firing weapons instead.

Mephisto · #5 October 27th, 2002, 11:26 AM

Well, either the problems arise with the MODs you are using or there is just something set wrong in your strategies. If you don't touch the strategies (i.e. out of the box) and obey the need-weapon/no-weapon outlined below it will work every time both in my regular game (1.78) and beta (1.81). In short, I wouldn�t blame it on SE4 in general but to some screwed up settings in your games or some variables we all overlook in your examples.

geoschmo · #6 October 27th, 2002, 12:43 PM

David, did the enemy ships have SDD's? This will cause your boarding ships to not try to board. It's like they know if they board they die, so they don't attempt it.

Geoschmo

DavidG · #7 October 27th, 2002, 04:08 PM

SDD's??? Good thing that Acronym thread is here. No I don't think they had them. Howver they were all CA's or BC's. I gathers from SJ's post that my ships would probably not have had the boarding strength to take these ships thus did not try. If this is the case a message from the ship captian would have been nice.

One thing I am 99.99% of certain of is that there is a bug with fleets not obeying their 'Don't Hurt Me' orders.

I'm not sure I understand the weapons/no weapons comments. With Ram and Capture orders does it make a difference if the ship has other weapons on it?