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October 28th, 2002, 01:29 AM
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Re: Ships Orders
Grandpa Kim if your enemy is using cheap boarding ships to get your vessels to self destruct, then yes Security stations would be better than SDD. Security stations are the same size and cost as boarding parties of the same tech level, and between 2 to 3 times as effective, depending on tech level.
However one 10K SDD will stop as many boarding parties as the enemy puts on their ship. And it has another use, eliminating those pesky maint costing ships that are out of fuel or damaged and out of reach of a yard. So like everything else there are tradeoffs. And there is nothing stopping you form using both.
Also, as discussed in another thread recently, shields and one shield regenerator comp will prevent boarding, at least until the regenerator comp is destroyed.
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Re: Ships Orders
Nice info Geo!!!
So in my P&N game a ship with one Swashbuckler would have an attack equal to 12. (40 guys at 30% effective) and thus could not capture any ship with a crew quarter. So if I put 2 of then on I could capture a ship with one crew quarter but not one with 2 or more. This could certainly explain all my problems.
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October 28th, 2002, 03:31 AM
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Re: Ships Orders
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Originally posted by geoschmo:
However one 10K SDD will stop as many boarding parties as the enemy puts on their ship. And it has another use, eliminating those pesky maint costing ships that are out of fuel or damaged and out of reach of a yard. So like everything else there are tradeoffs. And there is nothing stopping you form using both.
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G...how does it eliminate the main costing ships? Can it auto-destruct?
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October 28th, 2002, 03:43 AM
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quote: Originally posted by geoschmo:
However one 10K SDD will stop as many boarding parties as the enemy puts on their ship. And it has another use, eliminating those pesky maint costing ships that are out of fuel or damaged and out of reach of a yard. So like everything else there are tradeoffs. And there is nothing stopping you form using both.
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G...how does it eliminate the main costing ships? Can it auto-destruct? I just mean that if you have a ship that's incapacitated and no space yard handy to repair or scrap it, you can end up paying a lot of maintenance while for a useless piece of scrap metal. If the ship has the SDD device on it you can give it orders to self destruct. The only time it does it automatically though is if a boarding ship tries to board it.
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October 28th, 2002, 05:19 AM
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Re: Ships Orders
Have you confirmed this via a test? That is, the fact that "don't get hurt" orders for a fleet are ignored and the ships execute according to their own rules?
EDIT: I posted this after reading p. 2 im not really awake.
[ October 28, 2002, 03:27: Message edited by: Skulky ]
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October 28th, 2002, 05:22 AM
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Re: Ships Orders
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So in my P&N game a ship with one Swashbuckler would have an attack equal to 12. (40 guys at 30% effective) and thus could not capture any ship with a crew quarter.
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That is confirmed. Swashbucklers have an attack strength of 3. Crew quarters have a defense strength of 4. Ties go to the defender.
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quote: So in my P&N game a ship with one Swashbuckler would have an attack equal to 12. (40 guys at 30% effective) and thus could not capture any ship with a crew quarter.
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That is confirmed. Swashbucklers have an attack strength of 3. Crew quarters have a defense strength of 4. Ties go to the defender. Actually what I found was that ties go to the attacker, but in this particualr case it wasn't a tie right? The defender had more strength?
EDIT: Of course that's assuming I am correct about the defense strength of the crew quarters. You appear to be saying equivalent to 16 marines (4 ability value), not 20 as I thought. I think I just confirmed that the ties do go to the defender though, so most likely you are correct. Would you care to commatn on any of the other points I mentioned and tell me if they are correct as well SJ?
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