Some new ability i just thought of....

[TerranC]

Originally posted by PvK:
So you don't think anyone would be appalled by someone bombing billions of unarmed civillians to dust? Only if they use plague bombs, or split the planet in half? Seems to me the amount of mass civillian death is the main thing that will make civillians outraged...

PvK

Not if your citizens don't know.

In germany, most germans had no idea of the mass concentration camps; even the ones that lived just nearby.

[Quikngruvn]

Originally posted by PvK:
Seems to me the amount of mass civillian death is the main thing that will make civillians outraged...

Assuming, of course, you're talking about Peaceful populations. A Bloodthirsty race may look favorably on what others would consider atrocities. 'Course, a Neutral race probably wouldn't care anyway....

Quikngruvn

[Atrocities]

In SMAC there were weapons that were considered "atrocities" if they were used, for example nerve gas and planet busters (nukes).

HEY NOW!

[Alari]

Not if your citizens don't know.

Maybe a Propaganda Facility with a negative Atrocity value would simulate this?

Oh, hi all, BTW. ^.^ I've been reading this board for ages and love SEIV(g). =) Bought the game quite a while ago and have been nothing but pleased with it.

[Phoenix-D]

"So you don't think anyone would be appalled by someone bombing billions of unarmed civillians to dust? Only if they use plague bombs, or split the planet in half? Seems to me the amount of mass civillian death is the main thing that will make civillians outraged..."

For certain races, sure. As capnq pointed out, they should have different definitions. It somehow doesn't make sense for the Rage Collective to look down on bLasting other race's civilians..

Phoenix-D

[Lemmy]

Originally posted by CW:
This abilities maybe useful when playing the AIs, but against human? Emm... who will care?

I'd say the SP side needs the most improving, especially diplomacy.

Originally posted by TerranC:
Not if your citizens don't know.

In germany, most germans had no idea of the mass concentration camps; even the ones that lived just nearby.

The point would that citrizens from other empires would know, including their government, making them not like you so much.

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"So you don't think anyone would be appalled by someone bombing billions of unarmed civillians to dust? Only if they use plague bombs, or split the planet in half? Seems to me the amount of mass civillian death is the main thing that will make civillians outraged..."

For certain races, sure. As capnq pointed out, they should have different definitions. It somehow doesn't make sense for the Rage Collective to look down on bLasting other race's civilians..

Phoenix-D

yes, culture modifiers could be taken into account of how the race reacts to your "atrocities", since now they could also be a good thing, improving your relation with another madman's epmire...

[capnq]

So you don't think anyone would be appalled by someone bombing billions of unarmed civillians to dust?

To a Cryslonite, killing a billion organic-based lifeforms is just exterminating vermin, no worse than fumigating a house to get rid of roaches. The Sergetti and Xi'Chung have similar attitudes.