The Ship Class You Use Most

[General Hawkwing]

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Originally posted by Nyx:
Out of curiosity. My stellar manipulation ships tend to be frigates, just engines, crew, and one component each. How many other people try to minimize ship size like that?

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Originally posted by WhiteHojo
Nyx - I used to do the minimum size thing on Warp ships, Planet makers, etc. But got tired of having to return to a shipyard to make repairs so I upped the ship size to hold a repair unit & fill any extra space w/supply units. The extra cost is offset by the extra freedom. - I think I use a Lt. Cruiser design...

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My question to both of you: Are you using this design to exploit the bug where stellar manip devices do not consume the supplies they are suppose to? They are suppose to use 1000 - 4000 supplies each from the description. I emailed MM about this bug, but have not heard a reply yet.
WhiteHojo, I believe with the right supply storage level a lt. cruiser could work, my design is like yours, but since I've yet to research QR component, I include solar collectors to regain lost supplies. I can not recall if it fits on a lt. cruiser or if I use the next biggest size.

[WhiteHojo]

I was not aware that there was a bug w/the supply usage of Stellar Manip... now I feel like I've been cheating. Thanks alot!!!!

Seriously, on a Lt Cruiser there is room for SM comp'nt, engines, essentials and 2 supply pods I think. If there is a bug w/the supply usage, fixing it would do away w/mine and Nyx's usage of small SM ships. oh well.

You guys seem to be on the board alot and in the know as much as anyone (except maybe Mephisto). I've got a problem - trying to build a disposable mine sweeper component to use on warships (kindof a one shot thing, sweep the mines and then be destroyed like an emergency propulsion pod or emer supply pod)... I've got the component to work, all except the destroyed after use part - it sweeps a zone but won't destroy itself after the sweep - not sure what I'm doin wrong - here's the text I'm using.

Name := Mini Sweeper I
Description := Beams for detecting and destroying mines in space and are then destroyed after use.
Pic Num := 16
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 10
Cost Minerals := 300
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 0
Vehicle Type := Ship
Supply Amount Used := 0
Restrictions := None
General Group := Unit Launch
Family := 22
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Mines
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 2
Ability 1 Type := Mine Sweeping
Ability 1 Descr := Can sweep 10 mines per use.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 10
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Component Destroyed On Use
Ability 2 Descr := Component is destroyed after use.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None


any help would be appreciated.



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[SunDevil]

WhiteHojo:

Try one thing:

Instead of this line
Vehicle Type := Ship

Use this:
Vehicle Type := Ship\Base

I just went through the components file and couldn't find a vehicle type with just a ship option. I hope this helps.

[WhiteHojo]

Sundevil - tried it w/Base added - no luck, still not destroying itself after sweeping the mines.

How exactly do you "use" a minesweeper component? I assumed it would be used by simply entering the sqr w/the mines and sweeping em (&surviving) - but apparently that's not the case.

Got to be something I'm missing...

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Character is best defined as that which you do when you believe nobody is watching.

[Taqwus]

Maybe that field isn't checked except for the Stellar Manipulation items (which go through a specific menu) and components which go through the explicit Use Component button (Emergency foo, for instance). It might just be computing how many mines your fleet can sweep and using the number, w/o checking flags...

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-- The thing that goes bump in the night

[SunDevil]

WhiteHojo:

I can't play the game right now, I'm at work and actually have to work, but since the device is part of the unit launch group, maybe you have to hit the launch button. Maybe by doing this it will clear the mines and then destroy that component.

It is just a suggestion. If you find out let me know.

[WhiteHojo]

this is very upsetting - destroying the component was the only thing I could think of to counter balance the MiniSweeper's abilities... oh well, back to the drawing board.

Any further info would be verrrry welcome.