Patch 3.23 - Page 10

lch · #1 March 19th, 2009, 07:45 AM

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teaching sign and PotS aren't the same effect? That's surprising.

Hmm, could be the same, but I'm not sure. Teaching sign is caster only, +1 all paths.

According to the data, Power of the Spheres and Teaching Sign work exactly the same way, they have the same effect & "damage".

Edi · #2 March 19th, 2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lch

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Originally Posted by Edi

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Originally Posted by Micah

teaching sign and PotS aren't the same effect? That's surprising.

Hmm, could be the same, but I'm not sure. Teaching sign is caster only, +1 all paths.

According to the data, Power of the Spheres and Teaching Sign work exactly the same way, they have the same effect & "damage".

Then the question becomes, since they are different spells, can they be stacked? If not, then the Shugenja is indeed a better prophet than onmyo-ji

lch · #3 March 19th, 2009, 09:23 AM

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Then the question becomes, since they are different spells, can they be stacked?

Spells buffs work by adding flags to the units. Since those two enable the same flag, I'm pretty sure they won't stack, same as "Iron Will" doesn't stack with "Antimagic". The effect would stack with e.g. a Ring of Wizardry, which uses a different mechanic to raise magic levels.

Meglobob · #4 March 19th, 2009, 05:37 AM

Just like to thank Illwinter for another great patch and the additions to Jomon look great.

Poopsi · #5 March 19th, 2009, 07:39 AM

A comment on site searching spells: They might not autoaim on your capital anymore, but they DO autoaim on enemy capitals.

llamabeast · #6 March 19th, 2009, 08:07 AM

I doubt they can be stacked if they're the same effect. Mostly that kind of thing doesn't work (e.g. Iron Will and Resist Magic).

Sombre · #7 March 19th, 2009, 08:17 AM

I bet my farm they can't be stacked.

VedalkenBear · #8 March 19th, 2009, 06:34 PM

Mm, sorry to raise such a controversial issue. As I recall, you can't use a Matrix to do a reverse communion? If so, that's an easy way out.

Besides, I was more meaning to use a Master Shugenja to power early expansion. Once you have the need (and capability) to fuel a mass reverse communion, you can always kill off the Shugenja and prophetize an Onmyoji.

lch · #9 March 19th, 2009, 08:54 PM

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Mm, sorry to raise such a controversial issue. As I recall, you can't use a Matrix to do a reverse communion? If so, that's an easy way out.

I don't know what a "reverse communion" is, but crystal/slave matrices trigger the same flags on units like the respective communion or sabbath spells would.

Jazzepi · #10 March 19th, 2009, 11:27 PM

Reverse communions are where you have all the master(s) at the very bottom of the command list. All they do is cast magic path buff spells that the slaves get for free. Sometimes you even cast stuff like astral shield, body ethereal, personal luck, etc, to make the mages good against troops. Good being a relative term.

But, that's the idea. You just abuse the fact that the slaves get the master's self-buffs cast on them for free.

Jazzepi