[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics. - Page 101

rextorres · #**1001** April 17th, 2003, 12:57 AM

Well if you believe that 3000 Jewish senior citizens decided to vote for someone who admires Hitler then no I couldn't make that assertion. Besides I was talking about mandates and states rights.

Also if you believe in the spirit of Democracy then intention should matter.

BTW - you did call people "whiners" and used terms like "fair and square" for questioning the election that implies some superiority. Unless you don't want me to take what you write seriously.

[ April 17, 2003, 00:05: Message edited by: rextorres ]

Cyrien · #**1002** April 17th, 2003, 01:09 AM

WEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..........

Well... that was fun. Much funner than trying to argue political view points that I would be willing to bet aren't going to be changed either way. I mean really... haven't we all heard all of these arguments at least a dozen times already?

I somehow doubt that after 3 years someone is amazingly going to come up with either a Gore or Bush argument that changes everyones minds. And what if someone did? Would it change the fact that Bush is president?

I don't much like Bush. I would have liked Gore to win. I think Gore could have handled this 9/11 and Iraq situation. I think something was fishy with the state of Florida voting. I have no more evidence than all that which has already been presented, which is at best circumstantial.

Wasn't this all supposed to be about Iraq and the politics around that? Excepting a purely hypothetical view of what things MIGHT have been like what point does the Bush/Gore election arguments serve?

How many Posts does that make for me?

[ April 17, 2003, 00:11: Message edited by: Cyrien ]

DavidG · #**1003** April 17th, 2003, 01:19 AM

To bring it somewhat back on topic can anyone explain this quote taken from the BBC

"diplomats at the UN predict a tough round of negotiations in the Security Council if the US pushes for the lifting of sanctions."

Why the heck would anyone at the UN want to continue the sanctions now??. The only reason I can think off of the top of my head is that since the US wants it, it must be evil.

Fyron · #**1004** April 17th, 2003, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by rextorres:
Well if you believe that 3000 Jewish senior citizens decided to vote for someone who admires Hitler then no I couldn't make that assertion. Besides I was talking about mandates and states rights.

Also if you believe in the spirit of Democracy then intention should matter.

More useless BS propaganda. Bush does not admire Hitler. Please stop making up lies (or repeating lies that your idols have said).

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BTW - you did call people "whiners" and used terms like "fair and square" for questioning the election that implies some superiority. Unless you don't want me to take what you write seriously.

It does not imply moral superiority, which is what you said I was claiming to have. It implies "superiority" only in the sense of speaking the truth and not lies.

Cyrien · #**1005** April 17th, 2003, 01:23 AM

That does sound kinda wacky. Maybe the BBC just isn't on top of it this time?

[ April 17, 2003, 00:23: Message edited by: Cyrien ]

Cyrien · #**1006** April 17th, 2003, 01:24 AM

The reference to 3000 jewish seniors voting for an admirer of Hitler was not a refernce to Bush but another 3rd party candidate.

Fyron · #**1007** April 17th, 2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by Cyrien:
The reference to 3000 jewish seniors voting for an admirer of Hitler was not a refernce to Bush but another 3rd party candidate.

Ohh... well again, the ballots were not confusing. They were all clearly marked, and had very clear instructions on them. It would require not reading what they said to vote for the wrong candidate. Anyone that took the time to understand what they were doing would not have voted for a candidate that they did not mean to vote for.

Master Belisarius · #**1008** April 17th, 2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
To bring it somewhat back on topic can anyone explain this quote taken from the BBC

"diplomats at the UN predict a tough round of negotiations in the Security Council if the US pushes for the lifting of sanctions."

Why the heck would anyone at the UN want to continue the sanctions now??. The only reason I can think off of the top of my head is that since the US wants it, it must be evil.

No way! Is only to sanction the US!! Right now, Iraq is the state number 51!

Just kidding, just kidding!!

rextorres · #**1009** April 17th, 2003, 01:51 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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It does not imply moral superiority, which is what you said I was claiming to have. It implies "superiority" only in the sense of speaking the truth and not lies.

Just some poetic license. Everything I said seems to me to be factual where was I lying?

geoschmo · #**1010** April 17th, 2003, 02:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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More useless BS propaganda. Bush does not admire Hitler. Please stop making up lies (or repeating lies that your idols have said).

Rex wasn't saying Bush admired Hitler, he was talking about Buchanon. Argue that point if you want. It's probably a bit of an exageration, but Buchanon does have some radical positions on things. Listening to him sometimes makes me feel like a liberal, so you know he's out there.

Fyron, I think you might need to chill out a bit.

Geoschmo