[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics. - Page 129

Aloofi · #**1281** May 13th, 2003, 11:08 PM

Is it me or this thread have become so politically correct that even the jokes have to be explained to avoid missunderstandings?

Come on, we should always assume the best from any post.
If is only me, then don't pay attention to this post.

Alpha Kodiak · #**1282** May 13th, 2003, 11:50 PM

tbontob: Perhaps I could volunteer my services as the Canadian Minister of Information....

Narrew · #**1283** May 13th, 2003, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
Is it me or this thread have become so politically correct that even the jokes have to be explained to avoid missunderstandings?

I only said that I was joking cause I was in a hurry, and fairly new here that perhaps not everyone knows my sense of humor. Also here in the US, politically correctness has went so far the we never know when we will be sued for saying something that will offend someone.

Narrew · #**1284** May 13th, 2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
tbontob: Perhaps I could volunteer my services as the Canadian Minister of Information....

I think Bagdad Bob got that job

geoschmo · #**1285** May 14th, 2003, 01:47 AM

Ok, all this talk is making me want to go to the video store and rent Canadian Bacon again. That movie was hilarious.

Loser · #**1286** May 14th, 2003, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbontob:

quote:
Originally posted by Loser:
Terribly sorry that I misread you.

If you would correct me in a PM, if not in this thread, I would appreciate it.

Ooops, my sincere apologies.

When I posted, I did not realize I would be embarrassing you. I was just trying to correct what I perceived to be an irroneous impression.

Sometimes I have to think longer before I yak.

That's not the way i meant that. I am not embarrassed. I just wanted to know how the Canadian legislative system works, if I got it wrong. If you were not going to correct my description of it in this thread, I still wanted to know.

Loser · #**1287** May 14th, 2003, 02:35 PM

Quick question to all those who don't think too highly of Bush: do you have anything to say about John McCain?

geoschmo · #**1288** May 14th, 2003, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
http://www.talion.com/georgebush.html
http://www.awolbush.com/
link about his great military career.

Ok, here's the problem with this anti-Bush stuff all over the web. This guy with the talion site is a perfect example. His very first "example" of Bush lying was this quote:

Date: 08/19/88 Houston Chronicle article by R. G. Ratliffe
When running for governor, George W. Bush portrayed himself to voters as a great fighter pilot. "Asked how he got into the Air National Guard, Bush said, ‘They could sense I was going to be one of the great pilots of all time.’”

I mean, come on. This is so obviously intended as as self-depreciating humor by Bush. Whether you believe his personality is genuine, or it's all contrived showmanship to win the folksy hearts and minds, it's obvious to anyone with a brain when someone is poking fun with a reporter and when someone is making a serious statement that he intends to be taken seriously.

The fact that this web site author chose this quote with out any sort of attempt at putting it in context makes his intentions and lack of judgment crystal clear. By doing so he colors his entire site and tends to make someone viewing it with a skeptical attidude take it that much less seriously.

He has a lot of raw information here, but much of it requires an understanding of standard military procedures to be able to anylze it and weigh it correctly. He wants the uninformed reader to trust his analysis of that information, yet he leads off with what can only be termed as either a historic level of cluelessness, or outright dishonesty on his part. Not very smart IMHO, but unfortunatly very typical.

Geoschmo

[ May 14, 2003, 15:18: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Loser · #**1289** May 14th, 2003, 04:42 PM

There is a quote, and I don't remember who it's by or the exact wording, but it goes something like this.

Quote:

Someone said
Universal literacy has not led to an increase in the quality of literature as much as it has led to an increase in the quantity of poor literature.

I fear the same could be said of journalism and the internet.

Quote:

It could be said
The internet has not led to an increase in the quality of journalism as much as it has led to an increase in the quantity of poor journalism.

And just like all the crappy novels and non-fiction works out there, people do read it, buy into it, and ceaselessly talk about it.

This is a general response to Geo's more detailed analysis. I did not even read that site. This is not about that specific site, or about any specific situation, just a nice, broad, open generalization. (just so you know, if you cared)

[edit: Just wanted to make it clear I didn't mean this about any one person.]

[ May 14, 2003, 16:22: Message edited by: Loser ]

geoschmo · #**1290** May 14th, 2003, 05:08 PM

The problem won't get any better. It's too easy for people, and I mean no offense to Tesco by this cause people on both sides of the debate do it, to throw those links out there in a discussion like this. It can be carefully qualified with "I don't know how accurate this is, but he brings up some interesting points doesn't he?". Who cares if the information is unverified, out of context, incomplete, or outright fabrication. It's interesting, and it seems to support my preconceived notions, so I am going ot use it. I can't be held accountable to it because, after all, I didn't write it. Hell, I didn't even read most of it. I merely posted a link to it.