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July 21st, 2012, 04:21 AM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
ok I will increase hosting time to 48 hours
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July 21st, 2012, 07:53 AM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
Thank you very much.
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July 24th, 2012, 12:10 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
I need to go away for 4 day, so I have extended the current turn timer to 96 hours, I also submitted my current turn, hopefully by the time im back everyone would have submitted the next turn as well so that we dont prolongue the game too much and I will revert the timer back to 48h after that.
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July 24th, 2012, 10:20 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
Cool, thanks bbz.
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July 28th, 2012, 08:45 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
Guys, I'm not sure If I'm the only one that got this message, I will have to double check to see what happened. But apparently I had an unexplained increase in wealth which might come from cheating>???
Edit: my treasury supply seems to be ok, no increase there.
Edit2: I also seem to have -12 nature gems wtf?
Edit3: Ok I see what the problem seems to be. I ordered one of my guys to forge the chalice last turn. Usually that artifact costs 40 nature gems and 25 astral gems. And I had that covered last turn. Although I guess due to the mod the cost of this artifact was changed to 40 nature gems and 25 more nature gems.(not sure if it was intentional).
I will check in the debug mod to play around with it. and see what happens.
edit: you are able to forge the chalice with fewer resources than what you have.(due to the change/bug in the gem cost).
Now I have to options: since I dont like to cheat.
1.trade up my astral gems into nature gems so that I dont have a negative nature gems and I get the ammount of nature gems that I get per turn which is +6 (I would have been able to do that the last turn as well If I had noticed that).
2. discard the chalice and forge it again.(I feel that thats gonna be a bit unfair on me but its your call guys).
3. I roll-back the turn. Submit only my turn (since I'm not in a war with anyone I cannot abuse the roll-back and see ifno one gets a: player bbz has cheated message(hopefully).
Turns that have been submitted for the previous turn should be the same. Although the random generator might change the outcome of some of the battles that you guys had(if you had any) So its up to you guys to decide what to do.
P.s Options 1 and 2 rely on the chalice being the only reason for the cheating. So I feel that roll-back might be the best option.(if there is some other reason for the cheat message that I have missed) But option 3 might change the outcome of some of the battles. So let me know what you guys want to do Until then the game is suspended (I will extend the turn if there is a need to and the issue is not resolved by then.
Last edited by bbz; July 28th, 2012 at 09:14 PM..
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July 28th, 2012, 09:21 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
If none of you guys had a game winning/loosing battles I'd rather redo the turn. To make sure that that was the only problem.
I've sent email to all. So hopefully we can get replys soon and get the game running as normal shortly after.
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July 28th, 2012, 09:28 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
I wouldn't mind a rollback myself as nothing of note has really happened as of yet other then Lanka still refusing to die . So that's my opinion on the matter.
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July 28th, 2012, 09:35 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
Ok just to let you know. doing the roll back wouldnt involve any of you submitting a turn(I think llama server keeps the previously submitted turns in its database. So only I will submit a turn and then force hosting this way we get the new turn and everyone has submitted a turn.) So no extra micro will be required from you guys.
Although you will have to submit the current turn 50(for those who have already submitted it) again.
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July 28th, 2012, 09:42 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
My suggestion would be to just alchemise the pearls, roll backs almost always cause problems.
On a side note, apparently the chalice is not unique in this mod, since there is already one sitting in my lab. Would have been nice to know that before I forged it, as it was purely a denial move.
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July 28th, 2012, 09:46 PM
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Re: Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]
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Originally Posted by Nightfall
My suggestion would be to just alchemise the pearls, roll backs almost always cause problems.
On a side note, apparently the chalice is not unique in this mod, since there is already one sitting in my lab. Would have been nice to know that before I forged it, as it was purely a denial move.
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Is it not unique???? Damn it I was doing that for the same reason.
Ok I will hear some more suggestions to see how people feel about it and then let you all know what my decision is.(P.s I know about the urban legend that roll-backs cause problems, but out of the 5 games I had 2 of them had a few roll-back and it worked out O.K without bugs) Still risking the whole game might not be a good idea.
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