SFTC - Page 16

Ironmanbc · #**151** January 19th, 2007, 12:11 AM

I went looking for starfire (the boardgame) on the net and found it, I also found this (I'm sure it's from the boardgame)

President_Elect_Shang · #**152** January 19th, 2007, 03:34 AM

Yes that is from the game, but it looks like a house rule variation. Unless you are lucky enough to find a copy on eBay or an on-line game shop you won't find the Third Edition anymore. The license owner stopped supporting it so his Galactic (or is it Ultimate) StarFire is the only version in print. I don't support Galactic StarFire. I bought the rules but am not convinced it is worth the effort. To me Galactic SF looks like a 4X style game (in fact SE3 was my first impression) that had been turned into a paper and board game. WTF sense does that make? Why am I going to play a computer game as a paper game. I can't officially say the SFTC is based on 3rd Edition StarFire. What I can say is that it draws inspiration from 3rd and not Galactic. I would only consider a mod based on Galactic SF if I was aiding another modder, not the sole author. And I would never agree to sharing the SFTC name with a mod like that.

David E. Gervais · #**153** January 19th, 2007, 06:35 AM

grrr, mumble, grrr my ears are burning,.. somebody is talking about me grrr, mumble,grrr..

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Muahahaha, Cheers!

President_Elect_Shang · #**154** January 19th, 2007, 10:18 AM

Once again thank you David! There are the Personnel icons for the conversion. So that is:
Minerals ==> MC
Radioactives ==> Personnel
kT ==> HS

Now how about my earlier question? How many workers/employees does it take to operate the below (earlier post) list of facilities?

Ironmanbc · #**155** January 19th, 2007, 01:18 PM

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Now how about my earlier question? How many workers/employees does it take to operate the below (earlier post) list of facilities?

Well ya need a boss and office staff

then you need the middle man

about 100 workers per 1000 cost of the facility I guess

(I'm getting better at this)

President_Elect_Shang · #**156** January 19th, 2007, 04:59 PM

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Well ya need a boss and office staff

then you need the middle man

Crap that's about 100 per facility right there!

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Ironmanbc said:
...about 100 workers per 1000 cost of the facility I guess

I see two problems with that. First that wouldn't hold true when comparing a University to a Research Center to an Industrial Complex. I really need more solid numbers. Second even though they are still called "Minerals" in both the SFTC & Lite it is really MC. I did the conversion first to test it. So that formula (100 per 1000) won't work as cost is based on construction time. Keep it coming as I think you are on the right track. I will give it more thought and a little research later tonight or this weekend.

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(I'm getting better at this)

Sure but can you do the splits yet?

Randallw · #**157** January 19th, 2007, 09:27 PM

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President_Elect_Shang said:

Sure but can you do the splits yet?

I can, but then I'm a mutant (I'm double jointed).

Spectarofdeath · #**158** January 20th, 2007, 10:58 PM

How exactly do you install it? Do I need to put all the files into the correct folders?

President_Elect_Shang · #**159** January 20th, 2007, 11:05 PM

Download it into the "GameTypes" folder and extract it, next time you start SE5 you will see it as an option.

Spectarofdeath · #**160** January 21st, 2007, 12:48 AM

Very nice. Awesome work. Now all we need is some different ship sets and a good working AI.

Edit: But I did notice one thing, even though datalink says only 1 per vehicle effective, you can put more on, wouldn't this negate the fact of it being able to be damaged since one could just load as many onto the ship as possible?