Ship and fleet experience

[Karibu]

You don't get any experience destroying planets/capturing them. However, I am not sure if you get any XP's destroying fighters/satellites (which often are on planets).

[PvK]

Originally posted by Asmala:
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However I think a ship gets ships experiece also if the fleet its in makes a kill. If you fight a big battle with unexperienced ships, you'll notice the sum of every ship's experience is more than number of enemy ships.

I don't think I've ever noticed ship experience go up except when the ship caused the death of another ship.

I think Aaron probably doesn't remember the whole system for fleet experience, and/or there is a bug.

PvK

[Slick]

Originally posted by Karibu:
You don't get any experience destroying planets/capturing them. However, I am not sure if you get any XP's destroying fighters/satellites (which often are on planets).

I have noticed my "capture planet" fleets do gain experience, however they do kill a fair amount of ships and bases in the process so the experience gain is probably due to that.

On the same note as the quote, does anyone know if destroying units give experience? I was thinking that maybe all those satellites and weapon platforms might be contributing to experience. From my personal experience, it doesn't look like units give experience, or if they do, it is at a much reduced rate. I don't think that sweeping mines does, but not sure about the others. What about destroying populations or facilities?

Slick.

[dogscoff]

People used to build PD ships and let them build up to Elite experience by killing lots of fighters, then retrofit them to direct fire attack ships. Therefore I would say that PD fire (ie shooting fighters and/or sats and/or seekers) earns XP.

Also, I'm fairly sure succesful boarding/ allegiance conVersion scores XP.

[Asmala]

However I think a ship gets ships experiece also if the fleet its in makes a kill. If you fight a big battle with unexperienced ships, you'll notice the sum of every ship's experience is more than number of enemy ships.

I've made testing and I'm no more sure about this.

However there's two things now I'm sure. Each ship gets +1% experience for every kill (nothing new) and fleet doesn't get 0.1% experience for each kill. In my recent test a fleet of four ships killed 100 ships and fleet experience raised only +2%!

[Fyron]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
People used to build PD ships and let them build up to Elite experience by killing lots of fighters, then retrofit them to direct fire attack ships. Therefore I would say that PD fire (ie shooting fighters and/or sats and/or seekers) earns XP.

I seem to recall that being patched out, actually.

[ January 20, 2004, 17:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[PvK]

PD (or unit-killing) experience was at least patched way way down. However I think maybe there may be a small fraction given for destroying units of some kinds. You might have to use non-PD weapons, and it's certainly not 1:1, and might be limited to certain types of units. I seem to remember getting some very limited experience though when fighting someone use practically all drones and no ships.

PvK

[Grandpa Kim]

More confusion.

Just played my KOTH turn against Rollo. My totally unblooded baby fleet of 3 gun ships, 1 PD ship and a minesweeper against Rollo's 3 missile ships and a minelayer. Lost 2 gun ships and minesweeper to mines but the PD and one gunships were unharmed.

So:

GK fleet: 1 PD destroyer with 1 DUC and 9 PDC, 1 DUC destroyer with 5 DUC and 2 PDC
Rollo's force: 3 destroyers with 3 missile bays each, one minelayer unarmed

Three battles in this sector on the turn. Result: not a scratch to my force, all Rollo force destroyed.

Experience gained in this first ever battle for these ships:

Fleet 2%
PD ship 4%
DUC ship 2%



I not getting smarter, I'm getting dumber!

[geoschmo]

Ok, I just setup a test game.

Fleet A ten ships, fleet B 13 ships. I had one ship in fleet A kill all 13 ships in Fleet B. Fleet A gained no Fleet experience, at least if it's got any it's not enough to get to 1%.

The ship in Fleet A that did all the killing got 13% ship experience. The rest of the ships in fleet A show 0% experience still.

Test #2, Ship A baseship with tons of PDC only. Fleet B, 10 missle ships, 2 missles each. Ship A does gain experience from shooting down the missles. As best as I can estimate it took 20 missles to gain 1%. That may not be exact, but it's close.

Geoschmo

[primitive]

Just checked the result from the battle in "Above the law" (see thread).

My fleet of 39 ships killed 92 with the loss of 1
Fleet experience rised from 20 to 21 %

Now I'm really confused