Rumor: Kerry & Edwards Want to Ban SEIV - Page 2

Gandalf Parker · #11 July 8th, 2004, 04:15 PM

The worth of the indistry is probably a worthy point.
"Daddy, are we a Repubcracy or a Democblic?
"Neither son, we are a Capitalism"
Sometimes I think that drives the decisions of my government alittle too much.

On the other hand, the times that battles have won against the wishes of big business, it has almost always been parents fighting for the protection of their children.

The powerful nemesis of Big Business is United Parents.

[ July 08, 2004, 15:16: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Atrocities · #12 July 8th, 2004, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Raging Deadstar:
Sometimes i am incredibly thankful about living in england, although even our government is taking things a bit far in some measures it's now taking. The whole debate on a Ban on Smacking children and numerous other issues is getting quite worrying...

Here in the states 20 years it was ok to ride in the back of dads pickup truck, do that today and they will take your kids, take your truck, and send you to jail.

What have we come to?

20 years ago a person could ride his law mower over to the neighbors yard to talk. Now a days if you riding lawn mower so much as touches the street with you on it, your sited, arrested, and fined.

20 years ago you could spank your child when they got out of hand, now a days if you so much as look crossed eyed at them, the state takes them, arrests you, sends you to jail, and you never see your kids again unless you have mega $$$$$ to fight the GD FU system.

20 years ago you could watch what you wanted without government interferance, now a days we have the V-chip.

WTF is the GD world coming to?

20 years ago you spit a peace of gum out the car window, do that today and its a CRIME punishable by a manadory $500.00 fine, and up to 1 year in jail. WTF????? (Am fighting this one right now.)

20 years ago you could take a bath, water your lawn, and drink from the foset, do that today and your labeled anti-environmental. You can only take a three minute shower once a week, water your lawn only on the third monday of the month and only if you have permit, and because of chemicals used by the Chinese in the production of watering hoses, you cannot drink from them.

20 year ago most of the cops new your name, today, they only want to know how much your worth.

Raging Deadstar · #13 July 8th, 2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by aiken:
Banning them is equal to banning cigarettes containing nicotine(sp?). This law won't be supported by industry leaders and it means it has no chances.

Actually there's a good chance it might go through. The Government in england is calling for a ban on smoking in public places. It's not a total ban on smoking but to put it bluntly it's certainly going to stop a lot of people smoking from the sheer Inconveniece of not being able to smoke in many areas.

AMF · #14 July 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM

I think almost all of those things, aside from being quite exaggerated (for effect?), are based on local ordinances or are actualyl voluntary. That is, these generally are laws that the locals in your community passed.

Some are voluntary. The "V-Chip" never really caught on, and it's up to parents to implement. Last I heard, the numbers of parents who had opted for the V-chip TVs were extremely small in number.

Some of these are egregious exaggerations. The "nowadays if you so much as look crossed eyed at [your kids] them, the state takes them..." and the "You can only take a three minute shower once a week..." are clearly not the case. And, frankly, would never pass in this country.

But, hey, you can go ahead and blame me for all the country's problems. I'm a former libertarian and now one of those Liberals ...and damn proud of it. You know them, those folks who stand for liberty, freedom from tyranny, civil rights, and opportunity for all and all that?

Having thrown my bomb, I'll just duck the inevitable flames that are about to erupt...

Alarik

Draken · #15 July 8th, 2004, 05:10 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html

Maybe the rumor originated there...

( I feel bad because of the topic of my first post in this forum )

Wardad · #16 July 8th, 2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Raging Deadstar:
Sounds pretty false but if it does happen do not worry.

I'm sure the English and European Space Empires Fans will be willing to smuggle Aaron Hall (and any other Americans) to Europe and allow him to Publish and release SEV here. I will be more than prepared to set up a Space Empires Black market and make sure you Americans get your fix of War, Violence and Dominion

OUCH!!! that's a real rub!!!

Suicide Junkie · #17 July 8th, 2004, 05:27 PM

Why can't parents take responsibility for their kids?

Run your home as a fascist dictatorship, NOT your country.

Atrocities · #18 July 8th, 2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Why can't parents take responsibility for their kids?

Run your home as a fascist dictatorship, NOT your country.

Its not that parents don't want to take responsibility for their kids, its that the medeling left wing liberals have told them they have no right to teach their children the differance between right and wrong through discipline. Where there are no concequences for ones actions, there is no responsibility.

You can not teach a child responsiblity if that child is spoiled rotten. No matter who comes here and says that you can, and that you should never punish a child, is either dulutional, or living in wonder land. I tell you what, a kid throws a tempor tantrum 20 years ago his mom would spank him and tempor tantrum was over. Today if she looks at him in a threatening manor, the child is yanked from her care and put into the foster care system. This tells the child that they can do what ever they want and get away with it. Then one day they are 18 and get into some trouble.... wanna know what happens then? Yup you guessed it, they go to jail and blame their mom and dad for all their problems.

I can site many examples of this in my family alone. So those left wing, count to 10, time out, never spank your child, always talk soothingly, democrats can kiss the fattest whitest part of my buttocks.

Atrocities · #19 July 8th, 2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Draken:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html

Maybe the rumor originated there...

( I feel bad because of the topic of my first post in this forum )

Yes this must be it and that damn Kerry jumped on the band wagon. Oh this just PMO!!!!

Atrocities · #20 July 8th, 2004, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by alarikf:
But, hey, you can go ahead and blame me for all the country's problems. I'm a former libertarian and now one of those Liberals ...and damn proud of it. You know them, those folks who stand for liberty, freedom from tyranny, civil rights, and opportunity for all and all that?

Alarik

To bad your the exception to the liberal left rule of thumb which is to protect people from these very things by passing laws that limit our freedoms.

And no offense, but many people do not agree with the liberal point of view on a great many topics. And for the record, I think we need liberal ideas and laws, but over the Last twelve years the liberal laws that have been enacted have only limited our freedoms and free choices. The liberals that force fed us these laws I think we can do without.