Blood huting: Am I doing something wrong?

[Cohen]

No ...

To find slaves you need to have all of these conditions true (AND logical operator)


X (0-5000) less than POP
Y (0-400) less than Unrest
Z (percentage value, 10 + 40*Blood Skill).

So a B3 mage needs only Y and X check.
A province with 5000+ POP only Y and Z.
Unrest 0 only X and Z.

The best thing is to combine all things ...

Fata Morgana spell aids a lot since it reduces Unrest.
Some sites reduce unrest too ...
Growth raises pop even slowly ... and blood hunt kills pop [you take away young and fertile girls ... so you inhibit pop reproduction]

[liga]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
Nice job with your guide Liga.

If you like, you may add few other formulas to it which are currently missing - such as chance of geting battle afliction, formula for turmoil in province, weather formula. These can be obtained by searching this forum.

if you can give me the link to the thread with tah formula it could be great ... I have rewroten the guide in a more usefull way

http://arrakis.unimo.it/~ligabue/dom...la_addenda.rtf

thank you
Liga

[liga]

Originally posted by Cohen:

Y (0-400) less than Unrest

I have copy the Kristoffer post ... but 0-400 less than Unrest means that with unrest = 0 is impossible to find BloodSlavs ... isn't true ... so it must be 0-400 greater than unrest ... I think ...

Liga

[Darryl]

Originally posted by Cohen:
No ...

To find slaves you need to have all of these conditions true (AND logical operator)


X (0-5000) less than POP
Y (0-400) less than Unrest
Z (percentage value, 10 + 40*Blood Skill).

So a B3 mage needs only Y and X check.
A province with 5000+ POP only Y and Z.
Unrest 0 only X and Z.

Actually that isn't correct. You do have 3 parts, lets call them X,Y, and Z as you have above. Let's assume X and Z are true and unrest is 0. Then the entire thing will ALWAYS FAIL since 1d400 will never be LESS THAN ZERO. Only 1 in 400 would 1d400 be EQUAL TO ZERO. See what I mean?

[Vynd]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:

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Originally posted by Vynd:
THanks for the offer Cheezeninja, but I think Liga's info is all I really needed. It's clear to me now that while I was a bit unlucky with my lvl 1 Blood hunter, using a lvl2 hunter will make a big difference.

Actually lvl 1 bloodmage with rod is the same as lvl 2 bloodmages, and almsot the same as lvl2 bloodmage with rod, as it is clear from this formula.

So as long as you have lv1 bloodmages armed with rods, you are fine.

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Yes, I can see how this would be the case. The formula is such that the law of diminishing returns applies. A lvl2 mage is almost twice is good as a lvl1, but a lvl3 is only 1.5 as good as a lvl2, and a lvl4 only 1.3 as good as the lvl3, etc. So a lvl1 mage with a sanguine rod looks to be just about perfect in terms of getting the most blood for the least investment.

But seeing as how this was right at the beginning of the game and my mages do not have the rods yet, lvl2 is definitely the way to go.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Vynd:

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:

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Originally posted by Vynd:
THanks for the offer Cheezeninja, but I think Liga's info is all I really needed. It's clear to me now that while I was a bit unlucky with my lvl 1 Blood hunter, using a lvl2 hunter will make a big difference.

Actually lvl 1 bloodmage with rod is the same as lvl 2 bloodmages, and almsot the same as lvl2 bloodmage with rod, as it is clear from this formula.

So as long as you have lv1 bloodmages armed with rods, you are fine.

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Yes, I can see how this would be the case. The formula is such that the law of diminishing returns applies. A lvl2 mage is almost twice is good as a lvl1, but a lvl3 is only 1.5 as good as a lvl2, and a lvl4 only 1.3 as good as the lvl3, etc. So a lvl1 mage with a sanguine rod looks to be just about perfect in terms of getting the most blood for the least investment.

But seeing as how this was right at the beginning of the game and my mages do not have the rods yet, lvl2 is definitely the way to go.

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Aye, that's true. 1 lvl2 bloodmage should be able to gather enough bloodlsaves to jusmp start sanguine rods production for the future lvl 1 bloodhunters.

[Cohen]

Sorry I mistaken

Well do not forget Blood rank is added to the blood slave found.

So it's a D6 open ended + blood rank ...
A lvl blood mage so has a +3 and above 100% of finding slaves on his skill, while a lvl 2 has a 90% and only a +2...

Probably cost compared it's better the lvl 2 however.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Cohen:
Sorry I mistaken

Well do not forget Blood rank is added to the blood slave found.

So it's a D6 open ended + blood rank ...
A lvl blood mage so has a +3 and above 100% of finding slaves on his skill, while a lvl 2 has a 90% and only a +2...

Probably cost compared it's better the lvl 2 however.

Exactly. Which is lvl 1 bloodmage + rod(which counts as 1 additional level for the purpose of bloodhunting)

[ June 01, 2004, 20:02: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

[Cohen]

Ah, I've read on the Item Ref that is +2 the Rod ... probably I've an old Version.