Nations with weakest troops

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Well, both EA and MA Oceania are kind of pathetic (thematically so!), but he doesn't want to just struggle by himself, but also struggle to defend himself, and 90% of the time the AI just won't bother you much underwater.

EA Oceania KoTDs are pretty good. They are just stuck beneath the waves. Wave Warriors are decent too. I think EA R'lyeh is much worse off army-wise than EA Oceania. Your options with EA R'lyeh are pretty much chaff spam, chaff spam, chaff spam, or chaff spam. (CBM gives them trolls though).

[Baalz]

Oh absolutely Caelum's troops are far worse than EA Argatha. Argatha has sacred giants which can be pretty decent if you invest in a bless, are amphibious, have darkvision, and even their "regular" infantry are pretty good outside of a low attack score (which there are several ways to compensate for).

Caelum minus support spells and evocations is abysmal any way you slice it. Sure you can fly around, but that's not too helpful if you struggle mightily to even take out PD....

[KissBlade]

EaRyleh has the worst troops. Followed by LA Bogarus. Anything with elephant access is out of the "worst" range.

[AreaOfEffect]

Yes, you can just use mammoths against the AI and win. I ran my first SP game this way because I didn't know how to use magic effectively. Though I suppose you could just not recruit them since you are trying to challenge yourself.

You could even remove the unit entirely with a mod.

[Lavaere]

Well this has been rather disheartening, picking a race at random LA Bogarus. In my first ever MP game, and they are being said as one of the worst.

[Kuritza]

Caelum, Bandar Log and Patala all have ridiculuously weak troops. Bogarus troops are actually semi-decent.
P.S.
Oh well, against AI elephants may help, of course. But even then, there are nations with worse troops than Bogarus. Eriu, for example.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Lavaere

Well this has been rather disheartening, picking a race at random LA Bogarus. In my first ever MP game, and they are being said as one of the worst.

Well, I don't know if you are playing CBM - but CBM in its various flavors helps Bogarus quite a lot.

[lch]

Originally Posted by Lavaere

Well this has been rather disheartening, picking a race at random LA Bogarus. In my first ever MP game, and they are being said as one of the worst.

The question was which nation had the weakest troops, and the OP specifically said that he wanted to impose draconic limitations to research. I'm not that sure, but I don't think that Bogarus is being considered all too weak in general in the MP scene. I've seen people asking specifically for that nation, at least. You shouldn't give up just by drawing them in a game, but you might consider building your pretender around them accordingly. MP games aren't really decided by troops, I'd say.

[llamabeast]

Well this has been rather disheartening, picking a race at random LA Bogarus. In my first ever MP game, and they are being said as one of the worst.

They have some of the worst troops, but super-awesome research and magic. I don't think they're considered especially weak overall (are they?). Though they are considered good targets for a rush. Get treaties with your neighbours!

[Meglobob]

Originally Posted by Lavaere

Well this has been rather disheartening, picking a race at random LA Bogarus. In my first ever MP game, and they are being said as one of the worst.

Troops wise, rubbish.

Magic wise, awesome.

Just take a awake pretender that can take indies from turn 1 and reseach like mad spells to hurt anyone who is going to attack you.

Then build up a awesome research avantage.

Caelums troops are actually quite decent, you after use them on guard commander and issue the attack orders to the commanders. Also avoid any provinces with heat!