[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics. - Page 24

rextorres · #**231** March 15th, 2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Wizarc:
Who sold Iraq their supplies for Chemical Weapons? Who sold Korea their nuclear material to make nuclear weapons? Who sold Saddam his weapons to wage war?

The best joke I've heard is that the reason we know that Iraq has chemical weapons is because the U.S. has the receipts. Rumsfield was an advisor to Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war and the U.S. gave them the technology to fight the Iranians.

geoschmo · #**232** March 15th, 2003, 10:33 PM

Rex, I think you need to take a chill, and stop being so argumentative. Many intellectually curious, intelligent, educated people have looked at the situation and have come to the opposite conclusion then you. Belittling and insulting those that disagree with you earns you nothing but disrespect in return.

You casually discard any opinion in opposition to yours. You write off any opposing evidence as conservative warmongering propoganda. And you accept as fact the most fanciful imaginings and of anyone that crawls out with an axe to grind against the current US administration.

Your bias is evident. You are convincing noone of anythign except your own irationality.

Geoschmo

Thermodyne · #**233** March 15th, 2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by rextorres:

quote:
Originally posted by Wizarc:
Who sold Iraq their supplies for Chemical Weapons? Who sold Korea their nuclear material to make nuclear weapons? Who sold Saddam his weapons to wage war?

The best joke I've heard is that the reason we know that Iraq has chemical weapons is because the U.S. has the receipts. Rumsfield was an advisor to Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war and the U.S. gave them the technology to fight the Iranians.

Link please.

rextorres · #**234** March 15th, 2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
One question that never seems to get answered is this: If you are opposed to war what do you propose as an alternative?

While it may be debatable that Iraq has WMD's it is pretty clear they would very much like to have them and will continue to work to get them.

I believe it is also public Iraqi policy to support terrorism (as in them offering cash to the families of paLastinian suicide bombers)

So what do you do? Everyone knows war is bad. It's a no brainer. But would Iraq be better off in say 10 years with a quick war or with leaving Saddam in power?

We won in Iraq - the inspectors are in there - there is no way that Saddam will get away with anything while they are there (contrary to popular myth). W. should work to fry bigger fish instead of alienating the whole world.

What concerns me is that W isn't focusing on real problems. Korea and Iran come to mind. By attacking Iraq it just reinforces these two countries' perceptions that they better build the bomb before it too late.

If you really care about the palistinian issue then maybe you should push for a peace plan - that is the real seed of terrorism.

This war is politically and financially motivated plain and simple.

Besides who said I was against war? I think taking out the Taliban was a good thing.

rextorres · #**235** March 15th, 2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Rex, I think you need to take a chill, and stop being so argumentative. Many intellectually curious, intelligent, educated people have looked at the situation and have come to the opposite conclusion then you. Belittling and insulting those that disagree with you earns you nothing but disrespect in return.

You casually discard any opinion in opposition to yours. You write off any opposing evidence as conservative warmongering propoganda. And you accept as fact the most fanciful imaginings and of anyone that crawls out with an axe to grind against the current US administration.

Your bias is evident. You are convincing noone of anythign except your own irationality.

Geoschmo

So what have I made up?

Wizarc · #**236** March 15th, 2003, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by rextorres:

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Originally posted by Wizarc:
Who sold Iraq their supplies for Chemical Weapons? Who sold Korea their nuclear material to make nuclear weapons? Who sold Saddam his weapons to wage war?

The best joke I've heard is that the reason we know that Iraq has chemical weapons is because the U.S. has the receipts. Rumsfield was an advisor to Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war and the U.S. gave them the technology to fight the Iranians.

This is interesting. I have heard other answers. I am just one person here on this island. There are many ways to get news; t.v., internet, newspaper, etc. and I take it all in with a grain of salt. I vote, pick who I believe is the best for my ideas and complain when I can. But, I have to believe the US Govt is doing what it believes it needs to do to protect its people from outside aggression. I wish I could know everything the Govt knows so I could say yes or no to them, but I am sure they dont even know I exist.

Wizarc, signing off, skating by the US Govt.

Wizarc · #**237** March 15th, 2003, 10:50 PM

Maybe we will get lucky and 'God' will come down and ask everyone to be nice especially to the place where his son was born.

Wizarc · #**238** March 15th, 2003, 10:50 PM

Democracy?

Wizarc · #**239** March 15th, 2003, 10:51 PM

rextorres · #**240** March 15th, 2003, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:

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Originally posted by rextorres:

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Originally posted by Wizarc:
Who sold Iraq their supplies for Chemical Weapons? Who sold Korea their nuclear material to make nuclear weapons? Who sold Saddam his weapons to wage war?

The best joke I've heard is that the reason we know that Iraq has chemical weapons is because the U.S. has the receipts. Rumsfield was an advisor to Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war and the U.S. gave them the technology to fight the Iranians.
Link please.

You guys attack my bias - but you have no answers to the evidence.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/795649.asp