Ship and fleet experience

[PvK]

Watch the replay. I expect you'd see your surviving gunship put the killing blow on 4 ships, and the PD ship finish 2 ships. The fleet experience is interesting, suggesting that you're more likely to get experience with a low-experience fleet, or when your own fleet takes losses.

PvK

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
More confusion.

Just played my KOTH turn against Rollo. My totally unblooded baby fleet of 3 gun ships, 1 PD ship and a minesweeper against Rollo's 3 missile ships and a minelayer. Lost 2 gun ships and minesweeper to mines but the PD and one gunships were unharmed.

So:

GK fleet: 1 PD destroyer with 1 DUC and 9 PDC, 1 DUC destroyer with 5 DUC and 2 PDC
Rollo's force: 3 destroyers with 3 missile bays each, one minelayer unarmed

Three battles in this sector on the turn. Result: not a scratch to my force, all Rollo force destroyed.

Experience gained in this first ever battle for these ships:

Fleet 2%
PD ship 4%
DUC ship 2%



I not getting smarter, I'm getting dumber!

[Grandpa Kim]

Sorry PVK, there were only 4 ships in that fleet, so my best guess is the DUC ship killed 2, the PD ship killed 2 plus about 40 missiles. But where did the 2% fleet experience come from... especially in light of Primitive's post-- 39 kill 92 and get only 1%?

[primitive]

Mystery resolved

Bad news is it opens for a small exploit

Ask Aaron to fix it in the next patch or publish for everyone to use ?

[Fyron]

You would have to be a pretty low person to resort to such obvious bug exploitation.

[Maerlyn]

I vote for sending it to Aaron while keeping it secret. I guess that besides you noone knows this bug yet. so dont tell it to anyone, and dont exploit it yoursef

[oleg]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You would have to be a pretty low person to resort to such obvious bug exploitation.

Whom do you accuse here ?? Maerlin' post was perfectly fine.

[Asmala]

I have bugged Aaron (few times) and I got better answers.

Ship experience
+1% for every kill
small amount for seekers, fighters, drones and satellites
none for troops and weapon platforms

Fleet experience
for each kill made by a ship in a fleet, there is a 25% chance that the fleet gets 0.1% experience

I don't know whether fleets get experience for destroying units but I've asked it of Aaron. No reply yet.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Asmala:
Fleet experience
for each kill made by a ship in a fleet, there is a 25% chance that the fleet gets 0.1% experience

Well now, THIS explains a lot. No wonder we were getting different results every time we ran our tests. For once he sticks a random element in the game and then doesn't tell anyone about it.

Originally posted by Asmala:
I don't know whether fleets get experience for destroying units but I've asked it of Aaron. No reply yet.

I'm gonna guess no. One of my tests had a fleet with plenty of PDC facing several ships with missles. While the ships gained individual experience at a slow rate, the fleet gained none. Even with it being only a 1 in 4 chance of getting any experience, with the number of missles my fleet destroyed I would think I would have seen something.

[ January 26, 2004, 15:24: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Asmala]

Looks like you're right Geo, Aaron said he believe only ships get experience from units.

Yeah that random indeed explains a lot. I made tests when I tried to figure out the fleet experience but I stopped when I got a different result with exactly same settings.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by oleg:
Whom do you accuse here ?? Maerlin' post was perfectly fine.

Noone has stated that they have exploited the bug, so noone was accused of anything. Anyone that decides to exploit the bug in a PBW game would be a pretty low person in my book. This, of course, is why you have the game host either explicitly allow or ban all of the known bug exploits.

[ January 26, 2004, 22:40: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]