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		Wow Baalz that is an awesome thing to point out.   
 
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		I think immortal units are still susceptible to rout due to failed morale checks from fear and wound effects. They're just immune to the forced "everyone else routs" routings. 
 
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		It sounds right - I think that's down to having the special morale score 30, yes? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Agema said: Immortals don't die. So I'm not sure why they'd be afraid of dying.  
			
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The 75% rule is based on total HP.  It's quite likely that the ancient Kraken had more than 25% of the hitpoints of your side, and thus didn't rout.  
			
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		Hmmm... not the best mechanic but does somewhat help with the SC retreating because PD died while it buffed problem.  However, only some SC's have enough HP to make a difference.  Something like the Gorgon (a very good SC chasis in its own right, only has 30 HP). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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On a side note, if I were immortal and occasionnaly put into such danger that I might die again, I'd try to die every few months so I can be sure that I'm properly trained to handle pain. 
 
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Which brings me to the point : immortal units should have a "die" command that brings them back home.
 
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		I couldn't figure out why the Wraith Lord in Ghost Riders never routes, when all the horsemen die so fast.  So, I just realized it's because he's immortal, in a weird kind of way.  
 
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