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 Thing is, MoV is just as efficient as big battlefield spells for many nations.  Fire gems don't have a huge number of battlefield spell uses (fire storm, flame storm, and living fire are the only 3 I can think of), all of which require high fire paths and very high research.  Medallion of vengeance doesn't cost anymore, and while it will often deal less damage, does NOT commit a high level fire mage (which you might not even have, for most nations). |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by sum1lost  Thing is, MoV is just as efficient as big battlefield spells for many nations.  Fire gems don't have a huge number of battlefield spell uses (fire storm, flame storm, and living fire are the only 3 I can think of), all of which require high fire paths and very high research.  Medallion of vengeance doesn't cost anymore, and while it will often deal less damage, does NOT commit a high level fire mage (which you might not even have, for most nations). |  Erm...flaming arrows, anyone?  Also Prison of Fire (not BF wide, but high AoE) |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by sum1lost  Thing is, MoV is just as efficient as big battlefield spells for many nations.  Fire gems don't have a huge number of battlefield spell uses (fire storm, flame storm, and living fire are the only 3 I can think of), all of which require high fire paths and very high research.  Medallion of vengeance doesn't cost anymore, and while it will often deal less damage, does NOT commit a high level fire mage (which you might not even have, for most nations). |  Erm...flaming arrows, anyone?  Also Prison of Fire (not BF wide, but high AoE) |  Flaming arrows is an f4 spell, and is less functional for nations that aren't archer heavy, or don't have f2+ mages.  MoV can be used if you have an f1 mage. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Wicked thought occured to me... how does MoV work with Phoenix Pyre?   |  
	
		
	
	
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 I'm sure this has been said multiple times in this thread, but since it's here I'll say it myself: MoV is garbage. The effect is so craptacular and unpredictable and the cost so high (a mage turn, fire gems, a commander) that even for fun it's pretty much a 'pfft' rather than a 'boom'. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Ok. Again.My favorite assasin, can kill any commander without a scratch: Heliophagus with Black hearth. Equip: pair of Picas/Procus axes, Horror Helmet, Ethereal cloak, Brimbstone Boots. If he`ll fail to assasinate or just trapped with PD, all his equipment will be captured. I`m better forge MoV - and all equip will be destroyed
 Second - Heliophagus is flying unit, so he`ll attack close to enemy. And if he die, blast of MoV will damage enemy...maybe kill, maybe not, but if there`s a chance - I`ll bet!
 
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					Originally Posted by Crevan  I`m better forge MoV - and all equip will be destroyed |  Crevan, where did you get this idea?  While it might seem "realistic" it doesn't apply to dom3.  Your equipment will be dropped when your unit dies - the game doesnt care at all if you have a MoV equipped. |  Really?    Then I`m the biggest fool there!!! 
Damn, damn, and damn again. Why nobody can translate Dominions` manuals into good russian! It`s not first time I fail just because of my bad english. And even he`ll be good - where I can find all necessary info if ALL our community is about 20-30 men, and I`m one of the best with all my mistakes and kid`errors 
   
Anybody know, where I can find good manual? I know, it MUST be, I just need to find!
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 Ah, dont be so hard on yourself.  I doubt if I looked through the manual (i'm a native english speaker) that it would say anything about how the Medallion of Vengeance actually works.  I speak only from experience - I have never seen an effect in dominions that destroys items.  There are mechanics for picking up / losing items after a battle, but no actual in-game effect which explicitly destroys them. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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